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Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions
From: Rsoifer@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:01:00 -0500 (EST)
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Right.
 
 
In a message dated 11/22/2010 7:47:03 P.M. GMT Standard Time,  
cdistflatfoot@gmail.com writes:

Ok , so  I might try a 1.8 filter for ssb and this only helps if I am 
narrower than  2.4kwith dsp filtering  is that correct ?  and if I have 
the  filter selection on auto it will kick on only when the dsp is below 
2.4  .  John

On 11/22/2010 2:16 PM, N4PY2 wrote:
> The Orion  comes with a standard 2400 hertz roofing filter for SSB and a
> standard  1000 hertz roofing filter for CW.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>  121 Little Bell Drive
> Hays, NC 28635
>  www.n4py.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:<Rsoifer@aol.com>
> To:<tentec@contesting.com>
>  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02  2.0444A questions
>
>
>> Barry,
>>
>>  Most of the time I'd agree with you, but as Jack described his  
situation,
>> a
>> roofing filter narrower than 6 kHz (be it  2.4 or 1.8) might help.  For 
CW,
>> I generally use 300 Hz,  except on 160 where a wide roofing filter helps
>> the  DSP NR  (as long as there isn't too much strong local  activity).
>>
>> 73 Ray  W2RS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message  dated 11/22/2010 6:57:48 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
>>  barry.n1eu@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> For ssb,  the dsp  filtering will be sufficient 99% of the time.  If 
you're
>>  a
>> somewhat serious ssb contester, pop a 1.8Khz filter in -  otherwise,  
don't
>> bother.  Narrow roofing filters  potentially help much more with  cw.
>>
>> Barry  N1EU
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, John  Molenda
>>  <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ray , I  have no optional  roofing filters in my Orion II but have
>>>  sometimes wished for them  .  what filter would be my first and  2nd
>>> choice to load up on ssb  .  I work ssb 75  percent of the time and am
>>> just looking to  narrow things  up when needed .  thanks John
>>>
>>> On  11/22/2010  1:10 PM, Rsoifer@aol.com wrote:
>>>>  Jack,
>>>>
>>>>   I'm not sure these  are the best settings either, but here's what I
>>  do.
>>>   To
>>>> me, AGC Slope works  best at 1:10 so I leave  it there.  On SSB,  my
>>  front
>>>> panel AGC button is set to  Prog, which  translates to Hang 0, Decay 10
>>>    dB/s
>>>> and  Threshold 1.00 uV.  On the Filtr menu,  all of the optional
>>>> roofing
>>>> filters (I  have them all too) are enabled and Xtal filter  is set to
>>  Auto.
>>>    With
>>>> the DSP filter set  to  2750, that would auto-select the 6 kHz  roofing
>>>   filter,
>>>    >  which may be your problem.  If you set the DSP filter to  2400,  
that
>>>   should
>>>>  auto-select the 2.4 kHz roofing filter   instead.
>>>>
>>>> I generally use the 6 kHz  roofing filter  for 160-meter CW (tnx, Bob
>>  K8IA,
>>>> for that tip) but 2.4 kHz for   SSB.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this  helps.
>>>>
>>>> 73   Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated 11/22/2010  5:52:19 P.M. GMT Standard  Time,
>>>>    Thomas.Emerson.Jr@morganstanleysmithbarney.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>    >
>>>> Hey Ray,
>>>> Not sure how well this  is  going to work. I'm at  work now, just
>>  checking
>>>> for replies  via the archives on this  work  station.
>>>> OK, here's your  answers. I have  all the filters installed. It does
>>>>  not
>>>   do
>>>> it on cw. It mostly  occurs on 75m, at night, when lots of  strong
>>  signals
>>>> and QRM are around. And it's not like it's   happening constantly, just
>>>> occasional popping in the  audio, if  very strong signals are on
>>  frequency
>>> or  nearby.
>>>> I  usually  keep the filter on ssb set at 2750 hz. I'm thinking maybe
>>>>  I
>>> need
>>>> to cut it below 2400, and let that  roofing filter  kick in. Will try 
it
>>>>  tonight.
>>>> And the hardware nb is  off.  Using nr  helps, and moving the  agc 
slope
>>>  from
>>>   >  flat to one of the other 2  settings eliminates it. But I prefer  
to
>>  keep
>>>> agc slope at the flat setting, so I'm hoping someone  else  has
>>>   experienced
>>>>  this and found a solution other  than the agc slope   adjustment.
>>>> I would think that adjusting  the agc  menu settings (decay,  hang,
>>>> threshold) would do  it,  but I haven't found the right combo yet.
>>>>  Jack  W4TJE
>>>   >
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