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Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions

To: N4PY2 <n4py2@earthlink.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions
From: John Molenda <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:43:28 -0500
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are the filters just snap in ?

On 11/22/2010 3:12 PM, N4PY2 wrote:
> Yes, the 2.4 khz roofing is automatically selected when your DSP BW is 2.4
> or lower.  If you put the 1,8 filter in, that will come on when you go to
> 1.8 or lower.
>
> I believe my son, N4YDU has a 1.8 khz filter for sale at a good price.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 121 Little Bell Drive
> Hays, NC 28635
> www.n4py.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:<Rsoifer@aol.com>
> To:<tentec@contesting.com>;<n4py2@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions
>
>
>> Right.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/22/2010 7:47:03 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
>> cdistflatfoot@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Ok , so  I might try a 1.8 filter for ssb and this only helps if I am
>> narrower than  2.4kwith dsp filtering  is that correct ?  and if I have
>> the  filter selection on auto it will kick on only when the dsp is below
>> 2.4  .  John
>>
>> On 11/22/2010 2:16 PM, N4PY2 wrote:
>>> The Orion  comes with a standard 2400 hertz roofing filter for SSB and a
>>> standard  1000 hertz roofing filter for CW.
>>>
>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>>   121 Little Bell Drive
>>> Hays, NC 28635
>>>   www.n4py.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From:<Rsoifer@aol.com>
>>> To:<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>   Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02  2.0444A questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Barry,
>>>>
>>>>   Most of the time I'd agree with you, but as Jack described his
>> situation,
>>>> a
>>>> roofing filter narrower than 6 kHz (be it  2.4 or 1.8) might help.  For
>> CW,
>>>> I generally use 300 Hz,  except on 160 where a wide roofing filter helps
>>>> the  DSP NR  (as long as there isn't too much strong local  activity).
>>>>
>>>> 73 Ray  W2RS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated 11/22/2010 6:57:48 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
>>>>   barry.n1eu@gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> For ssb,  the dsp  filtering will be sufficient 99% of the time.  If
>> you're
>>>>   a
>>>> somewhat serious ssb contester, pop a 1.8Khz filter in -  otherwise,
>> don't
>>>> bother.  Narrow roofing filters  potentially help much more with  cw.
>>>>
>>>> Barry  N1EU
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, John  Molenda
>>>>   <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ray , I  have no optional  roofing filters in my Orion II but have
>>>>>   sometimes wished for them  .  what filter would be my first and  2nd
>>>>> choice to load up on ssb  .  I work ssb 75  percent of the time and am
>>>>> just looking to  narrow things  up when needed .  thanks John
>>>>>
>>>>> On  11/22/2010  1:10 PM, Rsoifer@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>   Jack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'm not sure these  are the best settings either, but here's what I
>>>>   do.
>>>>>    To
>>>>>> me, AGC Slope works  best at 1:10 so I leave  it there.  On SSB,  my
>>>>   front
>>>>>> panel AGC button is set to  Prog, which  translates to Hang 0, Decay
>>>>>> 10
>>>>>     dB/s
>>>>>> and  Threshold 1.00 uV.  On the Filtr menu,  all of the optional
>>>>>> roofing
>>>>>> filters (I  have them all too) are enabled and Xtal filter  is set to
>>>>   Auto.
>>>>>     With
>>>>>> the DSP filter set  to  2750, that would auto-select the 6 kHz
>>>>>> roofing
>>>>>    filter,
>>>>>     >   which may be your problem.  If you set the DSP filter to  2400,
>> that
>>>>>    should
>>>>>>   auto-select the 2.4 kHz roofing filter   instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I generally use the 6 kHz  roofing filter  for 160-meter CW (tnx, Bob
>>>>   K8IA,
>>>>>> for that tip) but 2.4 kHz for   SSB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this  helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73   Ray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message  dated 11/22/2010  5:52:19 P.M. GMT Standard  Time,
>>>>>>     Thomas.Emerson.Jr@morganstanleysmithbarney.com  writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>     >
>>>>>> Hey Ray,
>>>>>> Not sure how well this  is  going to work. I'm at  work now, just
>>>>   checking
>>>>>> for replies  via the archives on this  work  station.
>>>>>> OK, here's your  answers. I have  all the filters installed. It does
>>>>>>   not
>>>>>    do
>>>>>> it on cw. It mostly  occurs on 75m, at night, when lots of  strong
>>>>   signals
>>>>>> and QRM are around. And it's not like it's   happening constantly,
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> occasional popping in the  audio, if  very strong signals are on
>>>>   frequency
>>>>> or  nearby.
>>>>>> I  usually  keep the filter on ssb set at 2750 hz. I'm thinking maybe
>>>>>>   I
>>>>> need
>>>>>> to cut it below 2400, and let that  roofing filter  kick in. Will try
>> it
>>>>>>   tonight.
>>>>>> And the hardware nb is  off.  Using nr  helps, and moving the  agc
>> slope
>>>>>   from
>>>>>    >   flat to one of the other 2  settings eliminates it. But I prefer
>> to
>>>>   keep
>>>>>> agc slope at the flat setting, so I'm hoping someone  else  has
>>>>>    experienced
>>>>>>   this and found a solution other  than the agc slope   adjustment.
>>>>>> I would think that adjusting  the agc  menu settings (decay,  hang,
>>>>>> threshold) would do  it,  but I haven't found the right combo yet.
>>>>>>   Jack  W4TJE
>>>>>    >
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