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Re: [TenTec] O3 wish list

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] O3 wish list
From: "jack b friend" <jfriend31@comcast.net>
Reply-to: jack b friend <jfriend31@comcast.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 15:51:20 -0600
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I read an article on how to get the output for the P3 somewhere, don't now 
remember where. there is an unused phono jack on the back of the O and O2 
that can be used to connect a scope, but there is no connection presently in 
the O or O2 for that purpose. one can do that himself but I hesitate to make 
any changes in the Orion personally.

jack
ak7o


-----Original Message----- 
From: kc9cdt@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:03 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] O3 wish list

So, Does my OII have the necessary high quality IF output?
Lee, KC9CDT



-----Original Message-----
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] O3 wish list


Well said and totally agree Paul.  Limited engineering resources can
be put to much better use.  If the rig mfr provides I.F. output,
they've done their job.

Barry N1EU

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Paul Christensen <w9ac@arrl.net>
wrote:
>> high speed display is missing the point entirely.  The name of the
game
>> in panadaptors is RESOLUTION and the ability to twiddle sweep speed
and
>> AVERAGING parameters in such a way that best allows you to visually
>> identify the weak signals you're looking for.
>
> For the reason explained by Floyd, it seems to me that today,
inclusion of a
> panadapter into a transceiver is not a very good use of a company's
design
> resources.  The inclusion of a simple 8-9 MHz buffered IF port opens
up a
> whole new world to the operating experience that can never be
completely
> duplicated with internal band scopes.  Of course, that assumes a
> mid-frequency IF is available in the design that precludes such an
option
> with traditional up-conversion designs.  Ten tec was smart to add an
IF port
> to the Eagle.  That one low-cost feature alone separates the Eagle
from the
> Kenwood TS-590 by a long shot.
>
> In 2005, I purchased an Icom IC-7800.  For the two years, my thought
was
> that any manufacturer who could not, or would not, include an internal
> panadapter would soon face extinction.  I held that view until
something
> quite abrupt occurred.  I experimented with an SDR-IQ on the IF port
of an
> Elecraft K3.  After witnessing the panoramic detail, waterfall display
> choices, secondary receivers (through SDR-IQ), there was no turning
back.
> Suddenly, I viewed internal panadapters as a millstone around the
necks of
> manufacturers.   None of the present manufacturers have the resources
to
> provide the pan ability and control utility provided by SDR-IQ,
SpectraVue,
> LP-PAN, PowerSDR-IF, etc., nor should they.   Look at the display
provided
> by Yaesu with their FTdx-5000 product.  Frankly, it's a panadpater in
name
> only.
>
> Manufacturers only need to give us a high-quality IF port and a means
for
> rig control.  The rest of the panadapter and control functions can be
better
> managed by folks like Carl, N4PY, Moe, AE4JY, and Scott, WU2X.
Despite past
> moans from Ten Tec users, I think that in the end, Ten Tec was right
to
> delay inclusion of an internal high-performance panadapter into the
O2.  At
> some point, perhaps Ten Tec may want to market an external panadapter
> similar to the Elecraft P3, where that device could be used for more
than
> one Ten Tec transceiver.  Even so, it's doubtful that the device could
> approach the low cost and high performance provided by a small
netbook PC
> and SDR-IQ or Softrock receiver.
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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