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From: jrhallas@optonline.net
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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:49:18 +0000 (GMT)
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Ray,Very true, but keep in mind that the feature sets are different between the 
first two groups. All the radios in the first group either have, or offer, a 
second receiver. This was a major differentiator for me.If you don't want or 
need the second receiver you can indeed get top notch performance from a radio 
in the second group.73, Joel Hallas, W1ZR----- Original Message -----From: 
Rsoifer@aol.comDate: Thursday, September 8, 2011 11:16 amSubject: Re: [TenTec] 
ARRL ReviewsTo: tentec@contesting.com> Hi all,> > Since we're into subjective 
impressions, I'll put on my flak > jacket and  > share mine.> > Looking at Rob 
Sherwood's table, the top six receivers (FT-5000, > K3,  > Perseus, Flex 5000, 
Orion I and II) look pretty much > indistinguishable.   One > spec is a little 
better, another a little worse.  Then there is > a small  step > down to the 
next level (Eagle, Flex 3000, etc.)  Those are > almost as  good, > and 
generally less expensive.  They perform about as well as th
 e > top  group > in all but the most demanding situations, and represent > 
excellent value  for > money.> > Older radios generally rank lower in the 
table, but as has been > said by  > others, are just as good as when we bought 
them.  I have fun > with my  KWM-2 as > well as my Orion II.> > 73 Ray W2RS> > 
> > > > > In a message dated 9/8/2011 1:39:10 P.M. GMT Standard Time,  > 
cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net writes:> > Perfect!  Absolutely perfect. Kudos to you, 
good  Sir!> > Kim N5OP> > At 05:59 AM 9/8/2011, you wrote:> >I offer  three 
personal observations on the new radio - > receiver list  > debate:> >> >       
  1)   As new  radios come to market, they may (should) be> >       expected to 
perform better than older models.    This> >         sort of quality attrition  
happens in most all fields of> >          endeavor.  New models outpace older 
ones.    But...> >> >         2)  No matter how  much better a new radio is 
compared to> >       your old rig, ... your old radio does 
 not suddenly  start> >         performing worse.  It is  still the radio it 
always was.> >> >       3)  These receiver rankings are sorted only by  
close-in> >         third order intercept  specifications.   Some of the lower> 
>       rated radios appear to have superior or equivalent  ratings> >         
on other  specs.> >> >> >Therefore,  I don't feel bad that my Omni  VII was 
once rated > one of the> >best receivers when it was released in  '07, but has 
fallen a > couple of> >places on these receiver rating  lists.   It performs 
the same > today as> >it did back  then.   I have not lost any ground, nor have 
I > been set> >back,  just because the Eagle, or the TX-590s  have better > 
close-in  third> >order intercept specifications.   I expect my new  TX-590s to 
> have better> >numbers... as does the new TT Eagle.    My Omni VII has not > 
lost any> >ground - the others just pushed the  envelope out a little > 
farther, but> >the Omni VII is just as good as it  always was.  
  Same for the > Orion II> >and other rigs.   No one took a step backward.> >> 
>I suspect this take could  explain why so many Collins owners > continue to> 
>exhibit tremendous pride  and experience such enjoyment with those> >vintage 
rigs.   They  are the same great radios they always > were, despite> >the fact 
newer,  improved radios have come along.> >> >Besides, these receiver test  
charts are of limited utility as > they are> >sorted for one, albeit  
important, factor.  But, this > overlooks, and> >overshadows, the fact  some of 
the "lesser" radios have > superior figures> >and better  specifications in 
other categories.   They may also > have> >other features you might prefer.   
Therefore, one needs  to > look at ALL> >the specifications before making a 
purchase decision, or  > before one> >decides his rig has been rendered  
obsolete.> >> >Therefore, I am not losing any sleep over the rating  my rig > 
currently>has.  I plan on shamelessly enjoying my Omni VII  for > a v
 ery long time -> >without worry the new Eagle has a superior  close-> 
>in-third-order-intercept score.   The Omni VII works  as well > as it did> 
>when I purchased it a couple years  back.> >> >Besides, I figure I have a 
limited budget, and good  enough is just> >that... good enough.> >> >This is 
just MY  take, anyway... your mileage may differ for various> >multiple  
reasons.> >> >------------------> >Happy  Trails.> >> >=======================  
Richards / K8JHR   =========================> >> >On 9/2/2011 23:49, Ron Castro 
 wrote:> > > How true!  There is no scientific correlation between  > numbers > 
published on> > > the page of a magazine and what is actually  coming out of > 
your speaker > or> > > headphones.  If they correct  the numbers it won't 
improve > the > > performance of> > > your  radio at  all.> 
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