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Re: [TenTec] OT Re: Older rigs

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT Re: Older rigs
From: Steve Mercure <w5en@hotmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:52:30 -0500
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I've never heard an analog signal go "R2D2" when the through-put is too slow.  
:)  de W5EN Steve
 > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:43:29 -0500
> From: radionorthstar@gmail.com
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] OT Re:  Older rigs
> 
> Yes Bob,
> 
> No doubt about it, analog and digital audio are different beasts. Each 
> can be calibrated such that they are virtually neutral when cross 
> copying material between them. It's also fair to say that there are 
> identifiable differences between the two disciplines. These can be 
> manipulated intentionally, as you have done. Analog tape can function as 
> an extremely versatile audio processor, particularly as a high frequency 
> compressor and inter modulation and harmonic distortion generator.
> 
> Today, these effects are emulated digitally in software. Is it the same 
> as real tape compression? I want to say "not quite", but I'm pretty sure 
> that I could not pick out the differences in a double blind test.
> 
> Today's AM Broadcast transmitters are simply high powered D to A converters.
> However, as you note, digital can't give you the sight, smell, feel and 
> warm glow of a vintage AM transmitter.
> 
> That's simply magic.
> 
> 73, Mike, NM7X
> 
> 
> On 8/14/2012 9:48 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
> > I recall some years ago when I was working as a "recording engineer" 
> > for a major US record label, the producer wanted "that analog sound".  
> > We proceeded with the original recording on a digital multitrack 
> > recorder. Then we transferred the tracks to a well aligned analog 
> > multitrack machine and then transferred the analog tracks back to the 
> > digital machine for final mixing.  Thus we attained "that analog 
> > sound".  That way the publicity department could say "recorded in full 
> > digital format", which I guess is somewhat correct.
> >
> > Today's DSP technology really does a nice job of not being apparent as 
> > compared to the early digital grating or harsh "digital" sound.  That 
> > has to do with faster sampling rates, more data bits per word and 
> > faster processing times.  It just keeps getting better and better as 
> > technology moves ahead today.
> >
> > Of course there's "some of us" that still enjoy seeing and feeling the 
> > warm glow of tubes and the sound of a well modulated and clean AM 
> > signal.  Yet as I sit and look at the current copy of RADIOWORLD, is 
> > see advertisements for all sorts of digital processing system for 
> > broadcast.  Even the AM and FM transmitters today are digital 
> > modulated beasts.
> >
> > 73
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gorniak" 
> > <radionorthstar@gmail.com>
> > To: "Ten Tec Contesting" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Older rigs
> >
> >
> >> The quality of the design and execution thereof are far more important
> >> than whether a particular RF or audio system is "analog" or "digital".
> >> I've participated in a number of professional listening projects over
> >> the years. I've always been amused when people who profess to prefer
> >> analog audio wind up favoring the digital systems in double blind tests.
> >>
> >> 73, Mike, NM7X
> >>
> >> On 8/12/2012 2:46 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
> >>> Bob,
> >>>
> >>> Point (2) is well taken. Back in the days of "vinyl" when I worked 
> >>> in small
> >>> market radio I could hear when a stylus was getting "edgy" (chipped 
> >>> or worn);
> >>> it had the same effect on me as a chalkboard screech. Thus I 
> >>> question how
> >>> much real advantage there is in most normal situations (especially 
> >>> since I'm
> >>> not a contester or serious DXer) of digital manipulation and its 
> >>> associated
> >>> artifacts versus the (at least to me) much easier to listen to audio 
> >>> of a
> >>> purely analog chain.
> >>>
> >>> But then again, some folks might not even notice the difference (or 
> >>> at least
> >>> it might not bother them like it does me.) Guess this is one of
> >>> those "different strokes for different folks" HI HI!!
> >>>
> >>> 73, Al
> >>>
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