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Re: [TenTec] Requirements for a top tier DXing rig

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Requirements for a top tier DXing rig
From: Steve Mercure <w5en@hotmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:48:02 -0500
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Casual contester and DXer here and I must say this thread is one of the most 
interesting reads on any of my subscribed threads in a long time.  I've read 
each post and learned a bunch about contest and DX operating!  Thank you 
everyone for posting! 
 
73 de W5EN Steve
 
> From: chacuff@cableone.net
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:23:16 +0000
> Subject: [TenTec] Requirements for a top tier DXing rig
> 
> I kind of Hijacked an earlier thread thinking it would be a great point for 
> discussion and maybe result in helpful feedback to all involved.
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> JIm said:
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> We can thank the three major US manufacturers, Ten Tec, Elecraft, and 
> Flex Radio for top quality radios at affordable prices, many of them 
> "best in class."
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> 73, Jim K9YC
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> And I agree completely but would carry things a bit further.  I think at some 
> point in every DXers life you reach a point where there are some personal 
> minimum requirements for a so called Top Tier DXers radio.
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> I know I certainly have reached that point with the following that I refuse 
> to do without:
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> Dual receivers.  Not just dual-watch type of multiplex receive...which gets 
> the job done but doesn’t provide split headphone outputs so one can monitor 
> the DX in one ear and the pileup in the other. It’s nice that the two 
> receivers have the same specs but not completely necessary for me.
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> Split RX audio. Actually an extension of Dual Receivers.  I DX under 
> headphones 90% of the time and the split receive is a must on split frequency 
> operations.  I think it makes full use of the processing power our brains 
> have to offer as a DSP filter of sorts...
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> Dual VFO knobs.  I can do the toggle thing but why. The Orion system is ideal 
> and even better is having the remote VFO/Keypad set to the sub receiver and 
> next to the CW key.  The remote VFO/Keypad is really a nice touch and seems 
> to be catching on as Icom has just introduced one.  Again Ten-Tec leading the 
> industry. Not one of my minimums but again a nice touch.
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> Up to this point I have managed to eliminate Icom and probably Kenwood.  The 
> IC7800 and the TS-990 are the only current rigs that meets the above spec and 
> Icom is way out of my price range...the Kenwood is on the high side for me as 
> far as pricing.   (more on that later)
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> Knobs.  I just can’t get excited about my radio being a mouse and a keyboard 
> and a computer screen.  Now I don’t have issue with computer control of my 
> conventional rig but that is a bit different in that I use it to tune the rig 
> to spots and to collect data from the rig for population of fields in my 
> logging program. I still drive with the knobs. 
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> Sorry Flex...
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> BIG Knobs.  As we age it gets harder to see and sometimes dexterity suffers 
> making it difficult to manage tiny knobs placed so close together.  Ten-Tec 
> has done a great job on this with the Orion.
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> BIG Radio’s.  Front panel real estate is a must to keep from ending up with 
> tiny knobs, concentric knobs and multi layer menus resulting in many multi 
> function buttons and knobs.  It’s too difficult to wade through all that in 
> the middle of a pileup or running in a contest.  Besides this is a base 
> station rig that never leaves the shack. There is no good reason it shouldn’t 
> be sizable.
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> Elecraft is a bit small for me but...
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> Support. Well what can I say here...the best support is coming from the US 
> manufacturers.  I’ve experienced the Japanese level of support and it wasn’t 
> fun so I don't really want to go there again.  I can get decent support on 
> Icom because i’m friends with the local Icom dealer and he National sales 
> manager but again I can’t justify $13K for a 7800.  That pretty much leaves 
> Elecraft and Ten-Tec and the Elecraft is a bit on the small side for a base 
> radio to my likings but it does perform and is supported well.
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> All this and affordable:  Well what about price....  Needs to be under 5 to 
> 6K for a top tier rig for me to begin to justify it with the features 
> mentioned.  The sad part is that pretty much eliminates all the current top 
> tier radio’s but probably the Yaesu FT-5000 and Elecraft that meet my 
> personal minimums but I’ve not been happy with Yaesu support and their 
> current product line and direction so I won’t buy their products.  Were back 
> to Elecraft and Ten-Tec.  I already own an Orion II...the decision based on 
> the above clearly but the Orion has been discontinued.  So if I didn't own 
> the Orion and was having to make a purchase decision....  Things would be 
> pretty much the same...I would search out a nice used example of the Orion 
> II.  There is really no other choice for the way I operate and the features 
> I’ve deemed a personal minimum.  
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> The question is what does the future hold for guys like us?  
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> Who knows but I am glad I have the Orion II...it should serve for many years 
> along with the Centurion it’s paired with...till we get a glimpse of what’s 
> to come.
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> Of course this is subjective and YMMV so don’t beat me up too bad....
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> 
> Cecil Acuff
> Gulfport MS
> K5DL
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