Amen! Next time I'll bring the K3 (and maybe the Orion, too)
73, 'NZ
DOS4EVR
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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Billy Cox
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:41 PM
To: ac5aa@ac5aa.com; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Cc: Paul Gates; n4py3@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TS590SG Sherwood numbers = Orion
The Orion platform for a short time had everyone's attention, from DXers like
ON4UN to being used by many serious contest stations ... sadly most due to what
Duane noted below ...
have since moved on/over to the K3 platform.
I just spent 48 hours in the CQWW CW, with 5 other ops using a TS-590S (not SG)
and an Orion II ... frankly the TS-590S did much better than I expected and
having logged almost 5000 QSOs as a team that weekend, none of the ops had
complaints about the performance of either rig.
I as well as others are likely waiting and watching to see IF and WHEN Ten-Tec
replaces the Orion with another similar level contest and/or DXing radio.
Rumors say they will not.
If not, the TS590SG may end up becoming even more the rig of choice. I hope
Ten-Tec gains back market share and not be pushed even further into the noise
on this by not offering a comparable or even better product for this level of
performance.
(Sorry, the Eagle is NOT considered to be contest grade overall due to reasons
posted here and on the Eagle forum ... is it missing key features, or how it
does things like RIT is not well accepted.) It has been out for several years
and still has no traction with most serious contesters. Yes, there are a very
few, a very few. It has a great RX, and is a good rig, but is limited in other
ways that are expected for contesting/DXing.)
For a general purpose rig, I am certain it works very well, and again it was
not designed to be a top tier Orion type radio.
While I don't think we want to go into deep details on the TS590xx platform on
the Ten-Tec forum, as a person who has invested into more than one top line
Ten-Tec radio, both which are no longer being made ... I would like to know
what and when TenTec will have a similar level new product or if the new owners
have decided to walk away from this market?
BTW, I do agree with others that the Orion platform is still a great bargain
for a used high performance radio. We will have to see how service/firmware
updates and the replacement parts will impact that, but for now, it is a great
bargain.
Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays to all.
73 de Billy, AA4NU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duane Calvin" <ac5aa1@gmail.com>
To: n4py3@earthlink.net, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>, "Paul Gates" <paulgates80@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:50:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TS590SG Sherwood numbers = Orion
. . . and I think the "terrible time" Paul mentions after the Orion came out
had more to do with TT managing expectations of potential and real customers.
Everybody wanted all of "their" ideas included. They also struggled with
updates that broke functions that had worked previously - clearly a case of
inadequate regression testing, but then I think they underestimated the size of
the coding and maintenance job the Orion would bring. I was VERY pleased with
mine, and when I sold it a few months ago, it was still one of the best radios
on the market. There aren't many available that have it's feature set and
overall performance!
73, Duane
Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
www.ac5aa.com
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl Moreschi
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:39 PM
To: Paul Gates; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TS590SG Sherwood numbers = Orion
The RX320 was their first SDR, followed by the Pegasus, Jupiter, and then
Orion. The Orion was a great radio even when it came out. I bought one as
soon as they came out and loved it.
Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com
On 12/10/2014 9:31 PM, Paul Gates via TenTec wrote:
> I have not forgotten the terrible time that TenTec had with the first
Orion that they came out with. I think that was the first SDR they came out
with. Perhaps I am wrong.\\
> Paul Gates, KW4BD
>
> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:11 PM, R. Eric Sluder via
TenTec<tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I agree Carl, and I am normally rather open minded about OT
> discussions,
but this is way out there.
>
> 73
>
> -Eric
> W9WLW
>
> Sent from an iPhone
>
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Carl Moreschi<n4py3@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Why is the Kenwood radio being discussed on this forum?
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>> On 12/10/2014 7:25 PM, Don Rasmussen via TenTec wrote:
>>> I read the upconversion is on 10m and 12m, also anytime the selected
bandwidth is>2.7Khz.
>>> But - it does not have a second receiver or dual watch.
>>>
>>>
>>> SG includes roofing filters. Probably a good value and a hassle free
setup for guys that might find themselves on a contest band but not contesting
themselves...
>>>
>>>
>>> ================================
>>>
>>> On the WARC bands and 10M, the Kenwood rx uses upconversion and
performance isn't close to the Orion. Barry N1EU
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