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Re: Topband: GAP Vertical Question

To: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv@hotmail.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: GAP Vertical Question
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Reply-to: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:09:13 -0500
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Hi Don,


Then, why do broadcast stations that use vertical towers at approximately a half wavelength, purchase valuable real estate and spend thousands of dollars for the copper to install from 120 to 240 or more radials, each usually a half wave or more in length?


They almost always do not.

First, they would be fools or have idiots for engineers to have more than 120 radials. The only real reason they use 90 radials or so is it sometimes gets them out of expensive proof-of-performance measurements.

The exact FCC text is down the page here:

http://www.w8ji.com/counterpoise_systems.htm

Second, nearly all stations except the old clear channels on the low end use towers around 1/4 wave, often just around 0.2 WL.

See G. H. Brown: "Ground Systems as a Factor in Antenna Efficiency", IRE Proceedings, June 1937 p. 753. Brown demonstrated that the distribution of earth currents and ground losses is such that the region of maximum current and loss occurs at a distance of about 0.35 wavelengths from the base of a ground mounted half wave vertical antenna, which was verified experimentally.



But the field is so weak at that point that there really isn't much to be gained when the radiator is 1/2 wave tall. Plus broadcast stations have a huge investment, and overkill is not an issue for them. That's why the transmitters are so conservative.


There is zero loss at the base of the antenna itself, since there is no base current because the antenna a fed at a current node. An rf ammeter inserted in the ground lead, as well as one inserted in in the antenna lead attached to the insulated base of the radiator will read zero. >

That is absolutely wrong.

A typical half-wave BC tower is in the several hundred ohm range because of tower thickness. They are almost never over 1000 ohms. Halfwave BC towers at exact resonance are typically about 1 ampere per kilowatt.

There isn't an end-fed half wave in the world with infinite impedance and zero current, even the very thinnest lossless wire would not be zero.


<<The ground losses occur farther out from the base of the antenna. Low effective earth resistance provided by a good ground system is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for vertical antennas of ANY height if one expects good radiation efficiency. The claim that no ground system is needed for a half wave vertical is nothing more than a long-standing popular misconception.


Actually we do need a ground system, that much is correct, but requirements are much relaxed from very short antennas. With a half wave end fed wire element it is pretty tough to lose more than one or two dB in ground loss, but it certainly needs something there to allow it to be fed. It cannot be fed without some counterpoise.

Thick towers are another matter. The surge impedance of the tower is so low that end impedance never gets all that high. This is why thick antennas are wide bandwidth, and why extreme power SWBC stations use thick cage elements. They do that to keep the impedance extremes, even at the open element end, down.

<<
This topic prompted me to dig out and review an anecdote I recall reading in my decades-old copy of CQ magazine's Vertical Antenna Handbook, by USNR Capt. Paul H. Lee, K6TS (1974). He reported receiving mail from a ham who had made the "discovery" that he could tune and operate a half wave vertical without a ground system, feeding it by a parallel tuned tank circuit whose lower end is grounded. Since an rf ammeter in the ground lead showed no current, he could dispense with the ground system and its loss. He suggested to the Capt. that he should "discover the new world of half verticals with no ground system".


Current is not zero. It cannot be zero at the feedpoint of any end-fed antenna. That is an absolute practical and theoretical impossibility. It is a myth or a pretty gross misconception.

While Captain Lee had a lot of good stuff, he was also over the top with some things.

It is quite easy, with a thin vertical half-wave element, to get into the 80% efficiency range with a very minimal ground screen.

People think of losses as current flow problems, but a significant portion of losses in a half wave ground independent vertical are electric field induced losses at the antenna base. The same would be true for a thin element and no radials, and just a ground rod or several ground rods.

Thinner half wave verticals are pretty efficient with a minimal ground. When they get extremely thick the base current increases, and conduction losses can be a significant factor.

73 Tom
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