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Subject: Fw: [TowerTalk] What about hams with small lots???
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:17:43 EDT
You sumed it up real well.  It's a great antenna.  As I  have suggested many 
times use 136' of open wire line or 123' of 450 ohm ladder line into a 
balanced tuner. If used on the funadmental band install .15 WL high for max 
ground reflection.  For 2F or higher install a minimum of 40' to aid endifre 
vertical apttern that gets progressively sharper and with more gain at each 
higher frequency.pattern.  Because the vertical pattern is is sharper, with 
gain and not a circle like a dipole it tends to lower the angle. See the  CQ 
article a few month ago for the patterns.  Insted of arguing about it as some 
are--why don't you try it?

A few year ago a ham had an article about a 40M quad loop using insulated 
wire laying on the edges of the roof which "no neighbor can see."  It's a 
good receive antenna and on transmit did a good job even laying on the roof.  
Since it's close to the house (laying right on it) I'd suggest 67.5' of open 
wire line and a balanced tuner.  There is a way to use if over the "entire 
75M band" with a resistive low Z at the end of the feedline using a 3 gang BC 
variable in seies with one lead to ground.  I'll do a complete write up on it 
this fall  There is another 75M antenna that will cover the entire 75M band 
I'll do the same for those who had a problem with it.  k7gco

In a message dated 9/4/01 10:56:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "utahfolk" <>
 To: "Tim Makins, EI8IC" <>
 Sent: 25 December 2066 06:02
 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What about hams with small lots???
  > Tim ... I have been using horizontal loops since 1957 and their
 performance is excellent on all bands ... the secret is horizontal and as 
high as you can get ... but almost anything works quite well .. DX is a piece 
of cake .. I work tons of contests and run lots of QRP and I SELDOM fail to 
make the QSO ... there is no better multiband antenna around ... feed it any 
where you want with anything you want ... it flys!   Coax RG59 is preferred 
(RG11 for HP) and 300 ohm line will be the best match across al lthe bands .. 
of course you will need antenna tuner ... you can't have everything .. hi! 
... de Dave nc7w  (Refer:  THE LOOP SKYWIRE Nov 85 QST and any of the ARRL 
HANDBOOKS since about 1990 for a write up on this antenna)
   > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Tim Makins, EI8IC <>
 > To: TowerTalk <>
To: <>
 > Date: Sunday, September 02, 2001 7:11 PM
 > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What about hams with small lots???
 > >I feel the topic of horizontal loops should be expanded on here. They
 seem a cheap and easy-to-construct antenna, which can be supported from 3 or 
 > >wooden poles, 20-30' high,  in the corners of a small lot. The wire can
 be of a small gauge, and hence almost invisible, as long as you don't mind
 > >repairing it after occasional gales, ice or bird-strikes.  I have heard
 of one Scottish station using two loops, one above the other, on the same
 > >poles, and claiming very good results QRP to VK-land.
 > >
 > >Who else has actually used a horizontal loop on the low bands, and what
 > are your comments ?
  > >Tim
 > >----- Original Message -----
 > >From: "David L. Thompson" <>
 > >To: <>
 > >Sent: 02 September 2001 04:23
 > >Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What about hams with small lots???
 > >>........<snip>.........
 > >
 > >> 160 meter antennas:   Best for short hop (out to 1200 miles) by far was
 > a 160 meter horizontal loop that I loaded with center in wires (capacity
 > >> loading) as per the article in the old ARRL Antenna Anthology.   I got
 > it down to WSB *750Khz) by extending the center in wires
 > >> to center back wires.  Not bad for a 390 foot loop.  A station in KY
 > told I was the loudest on 160 in the CQ 160 in the early 90's.  
 > the loop came down in a winter storm.

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