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Re: [TowerTalk] Pull Rope in Conduits?

To: "Dorn Hetzel" <kb4eq@hetzel.org>, "Adam Shirley WJ4X" <wj4x@amsat.org>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pull Rope in Conduits?
From: "Gene Fuller" <w2lu@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:49:03 -0400
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Why not just a plain old plumber's snake ?  It should be good for at least 
20 foot sections and, it  might even still be good for it's intended use 
after the cable job was done.
Gene / W2LU

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dorn Hetzel" <kb4eq@hetzel.org>
To: "Adam Shirley WJ4X" <wj4x@amsat.org>
Cc: <towertalk@contesting.com>; "Pete Raymond" <n4kwpete@centurylink.net>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pull Rope in Conduits?


> If you use mule tape, which is flat, it usually won't spin
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Adam Shirley WJ4X <wj4x@amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the run in, it will spin in the pipe during the pull due
>> to being coiled up on the reels unless you unroll and straighten the
>> entire run before the pull (which is impractical in the real world, but
>> not necessarily the ham world.) OR you've purchased one reel to make a
>> multi-drop run and have to do it that way.
>>
>>  73!
>>  -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/24/2011 6:25 PM, Pete Raymond wrote:
>> > If the pvc is the correct size for the amount of cable allowing for
>> > additional cables and the cable to be pulled is properly bundled that
>> > will not happen.  The pull rope sits outside the bundle.  This method
>> > has been successfully used for years.  Blowing a new run is difficult
>> > when your run is not straight.  The key is "when properly done"
>> > 73 Pete N4KW
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Shirley WJ4X" <wj4x@amsat.org>
>> > To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:04 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pull Rope in Conduits?
>> >
>> >
>> >> The problem with that is the pullstring gets tangled in your cabling
>> >> when you pull... It's best to blow in a new line for each new pull.
>> >>
>> >> 73!
>> >> -Adam
>> >>  WJ4X
>> >>
>> >> On 10/24/2011 5:58 PM, Pete Raymond wrote:
>> >>> Think about pulling another pull rope in with the wires.  Then if you
>> >>> should
>> >>> ever need to add a wire there will be a pull rope available to pull
>> >>> the new
>> >>> wire through.  Do that every time you pull a new cable through.  Good
>> >>> luck.
>> >>> 73 Pete N4KW
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "john@kk9a.com" 
>> >>> <kk9a@bellsouth.net
>> >
>> >>> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> >>> Cc: <n6sj@earthlink.net>
>> >>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 1:16 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Pull Rope in Conduits?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> I push #14 electrical wire though while I'm gluing the sections
>> >>>> together
>> >>>> and use that to pull the permanent wires once it's buried.  The glue
>> >>>> on the
>> >>>> end of the wire has not been an issue.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> John KK9A
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> To:  <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> >>>> Subject:  [TowerTalk] Pull Rope in Conduits?
>> >>>> From:  "Steve Jones" <n6sj@earthlink.net>
>> >>>> Date:  Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:51:04 -0700
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm about to place a number of 150' Sched 40 PVC conduits between my
>> >>>> shack
>> >>>> and new tower.   I want to end up with small 200 lb. stength nylon
>> >>>> twine
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> each conduit, then use that small twine to pull through a larger 
>> >>>> 1/4"
>> >>>> nylon
>> >>>> rope for the actual cable pulls.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Should I use a fish tape to pull through the small twine as I glue
>> >>>> on each
>> >>>> additional section of conduit?  I'm concerned about the PVC cement
>> >>>> sticking
>> >>>> to the nylon twine.  Or is there an easy way to install the small
>> twine
>> >>>> after a whole 150' run of conduit is completely glued together?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 73,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Steve
>> >>>> N6SJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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