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Re: [TowerTalk] 75 or 70 Ohm twinlead or ladderline cable - does it exis

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 75 or 70 Ohm twinlead or ladderline cable - does it exist?
From: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:13:33 +0000
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Jim,

They do, by virtue of the way the data is derived!

I make Open-Circuit and Short-Circuit S11 impedance measurements of the line; from which Zo=SQRT(Zoc.Zsc). Loss is determined from the input resistance at frequencies where the line is multiples of a quarter-wave long. Vf is determined by comparing the physical length with the multiple-quarter-wave electrical lengths.

At that point the loss model is assumed to be of the form:

Total Loss = k1.SQRT(F) + k2.F

k1 is a coefficient representing the copper loss and k2 represents the dielectric loss; the two coefficients are determined by best fit to the measured total loss. As a check, k1 can be calculated directly from the known RF resistance of the conductors.

Some of the underpinning maths here:
http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/wet_ll/tl_formulas.pdf

Hope that helps,
Steve G3TXQ



On 26/03/2014 12:31, Jim Lux wrote:

An interesting test would be to see if the copper losses go as the square root of frequency (skin effect) and dielectric losses go linearly with frequency.


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