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Re: [TowerTalk] Is A Tower Weaker in Some Directions?

To: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Is A Tower Weaker in Some Directions?
From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 14:15:48 -0500
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I don't think wind direction matters. However, a leg is in the most tension 
when the wind is dead onto an apex. A leg is in the most compression when the 
wind is dead onto a face. Beyond that, loads are distributed according to 
standard statics. The above cases indicate the maxima for a given leg. 

I don't think this is the biggest worry, though. Torsional loads are. These can 
be very large with large arrays due to turbulent eddies. Shock loads can be 
very high as the arrays bounce against the play in hears and brakes. 

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the 
music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Oct 5, 2014, at 13:06, "Patrick Greenlee" <patrick_g@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Norm, Bill is right but hasn't dropped the other shoe yet.  Will some 
> mechanical engineer type please tell us which direction of lean is strongest 
> in a triangular tower with X-braces or the typical zigzag bracing. Do you 
> want a flat side toward the wind or the side opposite..  For reference lets 
> assume one leg of the tower is toward the north.  Then one leg is at 120 
> degrees and the other is 240 degrees.  Which wind direction(s) would be the 
> most dangerous for the tower?
> 
> One would guess there are three directions of wind that hit the tower at its 
> least strength and three where it is the strongest. The question is in the 
> above example of a tower what would be the most dangerous wind ,one from the 
> north, 120, or 240 degrees or would worst case(s) be 60, 180, or 300 degrees?
> 
> If there is a substantial difference in max wind vs relative bearing of the 
> wind then those with rotating triangular towers might want to be guided by 
> this as regards where to leave the tower when not in use.  ...and the rest of 
> us might wasn???t to consider this with respect to our triangular towers.
> 
> Oh woe is me... I have already committed 3 out of 4 towers to their final 
> positions with no regard to wind direction.  I have 49 ft of Rohn 25 plus 
> mast to erect and have not poured the foundation for the tilt base yet (whew 
> just in time.)
> 
> Patrick
> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Aycock
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 11:45 AM
> To: Cox, Norman R. ; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Is A Tower Weaker in Some Directions?
> 
> Norm--
> Be cautious about your assumptions. The direction of the strongest winds
> does not correlate closely with the direction of the storm path. I one did a
> study for a Rocket test site, (over 30 years ago) that showed (for that
> site) that the strongest sustained wind was almost 90 degrees from the storm
> path. The strongest winds are the result of rotation, not path.
> You might consult your local Weather office for help.
> Bill--W4BSG
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Cox, Norman R.
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:41 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Is A Tower Weaker in Some Directions?
> 
> Dear Group:
> 
>   I just joined Tower Talk -- I've read through the last 5 years of
> archives and have certainly learned a lot I did not know.  What a resource!
> I have a question:
> 
>   I have just ordered a US Towers HDX-555 tower. At my QTH, I have the
> option of orienting the base plate in any direction I want to.  My question
> is:  Are these 3-legged towers weaker (or stronger) in some directions than
> others?  (I am not a structural engineer.)  The reason I ask is that most of
> the violent storms that hit here usually come from the same direction.  Will
> orienting the base plate in a certain direction make it any less vulnerable?
> 
> Thanks!
> Norm
> KE0ZT
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