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Re: [TowerTalk] AES SK

To: "D. Scott MacKenzie" <kb0fhp@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] AES SK
From: Bill Eisinger <Bill@theeisingers.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 17:21:11 +0000
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Could somebody please explain what this thread has to do with anything remotely 
related to towers or antennas?

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> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:08 AM, D. Scott MacKenzie <kb0fhp@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> You are lucky you had a pension.  Most are taken away or simply not there.
> This isn't a menial minimum wage job.  This is a position that pays well -
> even by East Coast standards.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger
> (K8RI) on TT
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 4:27 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] AES SK
> 
> You're partially right Jim.
> I had searched the net and repeatedly came up with the 90 million, so I went
> to Politifact.
> http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/30/blog-posting/
> are-90-million-americans-not-working-or-looking-wo/
> They list the number of working age, subtract the number employed and come
> up with 90 million BUT they point out this number with their calculations is
> closer to 20 million. OTOH,  they neglect those who are under employed, or
> stuck with part time work which could double the number to 40 million, or
> still  substantially less than the 90 million listed in many places on the
> internet.
> 
> I should have dug farther, but 8 or 10 links all showed the 90 million
> figure, the disturbing trend is fewer people are entering the workforce,
> From 2009 to 2013 (last year the figures were available) the percent in the
> labor force participation rate dropped from 65.7% to 63.5%  That number
> includes part timers and under employed as working.  
> Looking up the pay scales, many of those liberal arts students will be
> unable to find a job capable of paying off their college loans by the time
> they retire.
> 
> I quit a job that paid better than most college grads earn, so I could go to
> college, but the CS degree paid much better still with more chance for
> advancement.
> Many would have been better off with a two year degree and a great deal less
> debt..
> 20 to 40 million is still a very large number and that 90 million does
> includes all those of working age.  Many retirees are finding it necessary
> to reenter the workforce, but they aren't counted when out of work. When I
> went to the university, many of the students took their first two years at a
> local college and then worked to keep their debt down.
> 
> I should have worked a few more years.  It would have made a whale of a
> difference in my pension and SS
> 
> 73
> 
> Roger (K8RI)
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/7/2016 Thursday 12:28 PM, K7LXC--- via TowerTalk wrote:
>>>    There are, after all, over 90 million Americans out  of work,
>> 
>>     Whoa! Would you please cite where you got this  info? Methinks 
>> that would have to include infants and students to reach that  number.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Steve     K7LXC
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