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Re: [TowerTalk] 16om vertical and the number of radials

To: Paul Christensen <w9ac@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 16om vertical and the number of radials
From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 11:57:11 -0300
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I think Paul wants to know the "real" situation, not theory. He want to
know if the theory is 100% in accordance with real big stations with many
radials on the antennas

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

El vie, 2 dic 2022 a las 11:50, Paul Christensen (<w9ac@arrl.net>) escribió:

> Ignacy,
>
> There's a lot of published information that addresses your question.  Some
> material is rooted in commercial applications and even more in the amateur
> literature where modeling is compared with measured results.
>
> As a starting point, I would carefully read Rudy Stevens' material:
>
> https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/design_of_radial_ground_systems/
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Ignacy
> Misztal
> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 9:25 AM
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> Subject: [TowerTalk] 16om vertical and the number of radials
>
> Do more radials on a 160m vertical bring more improvements than shown by
> simulation?
>
> Most simulations show that going above 32 radials on 160m brings minimal
> improvement, say 1 db to 2 max. Even for low angle signals.
>
> On the other hand, some really loud stations n 160m, say 5-10 db above the
> crowd, use a massive amount of radials. This is for inland stations, far
> away from salt water.
>
> Is there any discrepancy between modeling and real life performance with
> the
> number of radials? Does adding radials beyond 32 help much? Any real
> stories?
>
> Ignacy NO9E
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73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W
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