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Re: [WriteLog] WAE QTC's

To: "'Jerry Pixton'" <jpixton@shentel.net>, <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WAE QTC's
From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:52:47 -0600
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I haven't read all the posts on the WAE & QTC thing yet, but did want to reply 
to this one from Jerry since something has come to
mind.

I don't know how Wayne sets up the SEND part of the QTC in RTTY mode, but it 
would "seem" to be easy to end the message just like
the normal RTTY messages in that a %E could be appended to the end of the QTC 
when resending.  This way, it would act like a normal
RTTY message.  If you send a message with %E on the end and send another 
message before the first message ends, it is appended the
second message to the first message.  In other words...

F5 = %RAA5AU AA5AU %E
F7 = AA5AU %E

If you hit F5, then F7, you get "AA5AU AA5AU AA5AU " with no interuption.  This 
occurs when using the MMTTY plug-in.  If you use an
external TNC like HAL-DXP38 or PK232, I believe the transmitter will drop 
immediately after seeing the first %E.  Most people are
using the MMTTY plug, but I only mention this to avoid confusion (or did I 
confuse the matter worse?).

So if Wayne could put a space and/or CR at the end of a sent QTC, then %E, this 
way you could click on a QTC twice (not
double-click) and resend that QTC twice which is the norm when asked for a 
repeat of a particular QTC in a group.

I have email to Wayne, maybe we can work this out before next year.

OK, on sending a request for a repeat, being a fast typist, asked for repeats 
using ALT-K and typing live at the keyboard because I
didn't know how to ask for a repeat otherwise.  So I would simply type "AGN NR 
4 4 4 4 ", etc, to ask for a repeat.

I think WL has a great setup for WAE RTTY, but it needs to be fixed to work 
correctly and be refined.

Unfortunately I doubt anything can be done about sending/receiving QTCs when 
SO2R.  Wow, that's a challenge.  This is what I did.
When SO2R and I wanted to exchange QTCs with someone on the run radio, if their 
signal was strong enough, I asked them to send to me
instead of me sending to them.  This way, I could work other stations on the 
S&P radio while receiving QTCs on the run radio.
Otherwise, if I had to send QTCs on the run radio, I used the S&P radio to map 
stations on the bandmap to work later.

One two occasions, I had to receive QTCs on both radios at the same time.  I 
have to tell you that is really brain wracking!!! hi

73, Don AA5AU
http://www.aa5au.com
http://www.rttycontesting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com] 
On Behalf Of Jerry Pixton
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:47 PM
To: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] WAE QTC's

Don,

This has been an issue with repeating QTC forever. There is no PTT OFF as there 
is when they are normally being transmitted. Sure
would be nice for a fix. I had to turn the audio way up (as the rtty monitor 
volume on my FT2000 is way too weak) to hear the diddle
so I would know when to press Escape. If you chain them together (send twice) 
you do get a CR.

Boy, 10m was a blast.

Jerry, W6IHG

On 11/14/2011 4:16 AM, Don Hill AA5AU wrote:
> Just got email after the contest so don't know if this has been addressed.
>
> In your message "QSL MY QTC?", be sure to put a %R at the beginning of 
> his message.  This will force a LF/CR at the start.  It's a GREAT idea 
> to put %R  at the start of nearly all messages.  The only messages you would 
> not start with %R would be ones that are used to
append to other messages.  Also, good to put a space at the end of all messages 
before putting the %E to end the message.
>
> I had what I think is a problem with QTCs but not sure.  When someone 
> asked for a repeat, the only way to send a repeat was to click on the 
> QTC in the QTC window.  This works great except I could only end the 
> transmission using the ESC key.  It didn't end automatically.  I thought 
> pressing ALT+1 or the 1 key should resend QTC #1, etc,
as it says in the Help file. Or perhaps not on RTTY?  Maybe this is the way I 
always had to do it.  I just don't remember because of
a case of CRS.
>
> 73, Don AA5AU
> http://www.aa5au.com
> http://www.rttycontesting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K2NV@arrl.net
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:51 PM
> To: REFLECTOR writelog
> Subject: [WriteLog] WAE QTC's
>
> WAE RTTY  QTC Question:
>
> Anyone know how to put a carriage return after the last QTC entry?
> When sending a QTC, the last entry is followed with QSL MY QTC and it is run 
> on after the last QTC.
>
> My last QTC looks like this.  I am sure it must be edited at the RX end.
>
> 1519-M0TQR-048QSL MY QTC?
>
> I'd like to push the "QSL MY QTC?" down one line.
>
> Tony
> K2NV
>
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