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Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer

To: "Fabian Kurz" <mail@fkurz.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer
From: "doug smith" <dougw9wi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:17:51 -0500
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K5ZD:
>I believe use of skimmer should put you in assisted.  Anything that gives
you calls and frequencies (and did not come from your own knob twisting and
ears) is assisting you in your operation and providing an advantage.

Should it make a difference whether it's Skimmer running on your own
equipment (i.e., subject to the 500m-circle rule) or Skimmer data
obtained over the Internet?

(this is a question, not a statement!)

DJ1YFK:
>There will always be some scum in the contesting community that
cheats. No matter what we do, there won't be a way to completely
eliminate it. Making the rules less restrictive to reduce cheating is
a step in the wrong direction.

Agreed.  Are there *really* enough people cheating to make it worth
messing with the rules?  Unless cheating is a LOT more widespread on
the coasts and/or in Europe, there just isn't enough of it going on to
be worth worrying about.


On 4/22/08, Fabian Kurz <mail@fkurz.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 07:01:16AM -0400, Pete Smith wrote:
> > If CW Skimmer is banned in this category,
> > the temptation to cheat will be almost overwhelming.
>
> It's the same temptation to cheat with DX-Cluster, excessive power,
> etc. I don't see the difference.
>
> There will always be some scum in the contesting community that
> cheats. No matter what we do, there won't be a way to completely
> eliminate it. Making the rules less restrictive to reduce cheating is
> a step in the wrong direction.
>
> Let them cheat and be happy with it; just don't force honest and
> skillful (unassisted) operators into using Skimmer, Cluster or other
> means of assistance, which may increase the score by a few percent but
> decrease the fun of contesting by 30dB.
>
> 73,
> --
> Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/
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Doug Smith W9WI
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