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Re: [CQ-Contest] unIDs

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] unIDs
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:44:22 -0500
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If you don't know who they are, don't call them.

If, as a S&P station, you don't want to wait for an ID, move on to work
someone else.

Some stations ID after every contact.  Some after every other.  Some every
minute.  Some less often.  This is nothing new; this goes back as far as I
can recall, and that goes back to Field Day 1972.  

Unless you are going to mandate in the rules a minimum time to ID over &
above what is legally required by the country of license for the station,
there's not much that can be done about it.

73

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:30 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] unIDs

(a term from the broadcast DX world used to refer to stations you hear that
are probably good DX but can't be identified.  Of course, the FCC 
broadcasting regulations only require stations to give their callsigns once
an hour, and while the Communications Act doesn't require it, Murphy's Law 
requires the signal fade during the identification announcement...)


Unfortunately there were far too many unIDs in this weekend's CQ WW CW.  You
don't have to ID after *every* QSO#, but having to wait 60-120 seconds 
for an ID is simply not acceptable.##  Being the S&P side of a QSO does not
constitute permission for the run side to waste my time; isn't that kinda 
the ham radio equivalent of saving time in a Formula 1 race by having your
crew barricade the track so you can refuel in your lane & don't have to 
enter the pits?  So what if it slows down the other competitors?, it's
faster for ME.

After years of declining dupe rates, (due to computer logging, resulting in
much faster & more accurate dupe checking)  I sense the dupe total is 
climbing again.  One major Caribbean DXpedition worked me three times on the
same band -- because they weren't IDing with reasonable frequency & I 
wasn't sure they weren't a needed mult.  A couple of dozen other stations
also ended up getting duped.  (I find it interesting to note that there is 
not a single JA or VE station among the offenders)  There are also at least
three stations that are going to get a N.I.L., as the S&P rates were too 
high to justify sitting around 1-3 minutes waiting for an ID from someone
who probably wasn't a mult.


It's my impression this problem was a LOT worse in the CW contest than it
was on phone last month.

-- 

Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View, TN  EM66

# although it would be nice, and many of the best operators were doing so.
## unless it's taking that long to complete a single QSO, which DOES
occasionally happen.
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