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Re: [CQ-Contest] How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: k0rc@citlink.net
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:37:47 -0500
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/"However we have learned here that the robot doesn't tell time like ordinary folks..."/

Yeah butt...  :-)

[Theoretically] what if the robot HAS been programmed to allow 12:00 to 1:00 timestamps to qualify as 1 hour but they're just not tell us? Imagine how long the "How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time" thread would be in that case?

Just sayin'... and waitin' for the fireworks...

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 7/4/2013 11:24 AM, Radio K0HB wrote:
Rex,

I guess my point is this......

Most people consider the passage of an hour as measured by a clock to be "the same minute one hour later", and I think most contesters (without this discussion) would apply the same measure. That isn't "gaming", it is just the ordinary way people think about time. If my doctor tells me take 2 aspirin at noon and another dose an hour later, I'll plan on taking the second dose at 1:00, not 1:01.

However we have learned here that the robot doesn't tell time like ordinary folks, so to be safe we must wait for 61 minutes of elapsed clock time before the next contact. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just that we must be aware of it or the robot will not credit our time off.

73, Hans, K0HB


-----Original Message----- From: Rex Maner
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 3:50 PM
To: 'Radio K0HB' ; 'Zivney, Terry' ; 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time

Hans
Of course  they have to game (rubber) the clock for a few seconds on each
end or they lose the 60 min . Or they could just sit for that extra 15 sec
then the time will come out correct.

Quack

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Radio K0HB
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:28 AM
To: Zivney, Terry; CQ-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time

"Game the rules".  Really!?!?!?!?

Any reasonable person would assume that after more than 60 minutes have
passed, he could make the next contact.

Now, of course, we know that the robot isn't too smart, so we must let up to
61-minutes pass (at least those few of us who read this thread now know
that).

The rest of the contest world who carefully wait only a full hour aren't
"gaming the rules", they are doing exactly what the rules specify that they
do.  Does the "spirit of the rules" require them to wait 61 minutes?

73, de Hans, K0HB


-----Original Message-----
From: Zivney, Terry
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:44 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How to be sure you have 60+ minutes off time

My personal belief is that much of the grief that contesters have with the rules is a desire by some to 'game the rules' - rather than understand the
'spirit of the rules.'


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