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Re: [Karlnet] RE: Ping Jitter

To: "Timothy J Steele MCSE" <tsteele@e-isco.com>, "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RE: Ping Jitter
From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@jagwireless.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:59:31 -0500
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
I have seen the same.  So...I'm totally screwed.

I'm not going to change out 30 subs antenna or overamp the sector to get the
"greater than 15db" SNR.

Turn off polling and what's the big advantage to Karlnet?

This sucks.  I guess it's time to deploy an 802.11b AP and start doing the
new installs that way.

-bob
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timothy J Steele MCSE" <tsteele@e-isco.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: [Karlnet] RE: Ping Jitter


> We have the same exact problem on ALL our mountain sites. We currently
have
> five mountain sites with 40+ subscribers each. All are running Karl Net
> flash ROM units with at least 1 GHz CPUs and 256mb of system RAM. We have
> been running with 40+ clients on at least two of the sites for over three
> years with no "ping jitter" whatsoever. All of our sites are monitored and
> logged via SMTP. The "ping jitter" problem appeared on our sites once we
> moved from the 3.x version (3.88) to the 4.x (4.43) version. Once we
noticed
> this we began a small lab test to narrow down where the problem resides.
> What we found was polling was the cause. Whenever we would disable the
> polling functionality of the base unit the ping times would return to the
> normal 10ms to 30ms range. Once we enabled pooling the ping times would
> change dramatically from 10ms to over 400ms. Poling by itself would
increase
> the latency, then when we created some weak SNR signals to our test lab
the
> latency would increase dramatically. It seems that the pooling of the base
> station is effected by the SNR of each subscriber. Once you get several
weak
> subscribers (15db and under) the latency seems to increase exponentially.
> This problem does not occur when we flash our lab unit with the older 3.88
> version. The latency remains consistent between 10 and 40 ms. it is
affected
> by poor SNR bur not as dramatically as the 4.x versions. It would seem to
> eliminate the "ping jitter" you have two choices, one "turn of poling"
this
> fixes the problem immediately but then you loose the ability to support
the
> NDIS version of the Karl Net client software (this includes the new Ubicom
> units since they are a variant of the NDIS client). Or downgrade to the
3.x
> version and loose a whole bunch of new base software features. At this
time
> we are doing everything we can to maximize SNR on all our subscribers to
at
> least reduce the latency and wait for Karl Net to address the issue in a
> future BIN release.
>
> Timothy Steele
> e-ISCO Internet
> MCSE, MCP, MCI
> tsteele@e-isco.com
> www.e-isco.com
>
>
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