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Subject: [RTTY] Dayton RTTY Forum set.....
From: tgstewart@pepco.com (tgstewart@pepco.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:29:59 -0500
I've been listening to this ranting for years now...both on RTTY and "the 
other modes", but it's much more prevalent on RTTY.  I could really care 
less which way it goes as long as SO2R (or SOMR) is not disallowed. 
Frankly, RTTY without SO2R would be especially boring for me.

The bottom line is that operators with the better stations tend to have 
the larger scores and the best operators with the better stations win 
contests.  This all happens independent of SO2R, which is just another 
facet of the game that helps improve scores.

The SO2R advantage on RTTY when done right, is probably larger than what 
is possible on the other modes because the operator doesn't actually 
decode the real-time message.  It's stored on the screen.  So there is 
more opportunity to "multiplex" operator and station time, which is really 
what SO2R is all about.  SO2R is not new...it's been going on for decades. 
 The difference is that we've gotten a lot better at doing it, both thru 
hardware and software improvements that a good operator can use.

If you want to establish a new class called SOL (Single Op Limited, not 
"... Outta Luck"!) that's fine with me.  The only way that will happen is 
if the sponsors of the contests can be convinced to add it.  Your other 
choices are to create your own award for the category as a "renegade" to 
an established contest or start your own contest.  You may not get 
published in a traditional magazine, but you can certainly list them here, 
on web sites, and probably the Digital Journal and issue your own awards. 
You establish your own set of rules for SOL and how you will collect 
scores, log checking, etc. and go for it!  If you gain enough momentum, 
the contest directors are much more likely to take SOL seriously and add 
it as a regular category.

So, my premise is:  It's all up to you.   Stop bitching about it and do 
something about it.  If  you aren't willing to put forth the effort for 
SOL in a meaningful way, then you have no right to complain that it 
doesn't exist and you are wasting reflector bandwidth.

73, Ty K3MM






Tom Moore <wx4tm@mindspring.com>
Sent by: rtty-admin@contesting.com
03/24/2002 06:57 PM

 
        To:     Frank J Fallon <n2ff@juno.com>
        cc:     RTTY@contesting.com
        Subject:        Re: [RTTY] Dayton RTTY Forum set.....


I wonder if anyone might dare explain why 99.99 percent of us rtty
contestors currently running a single radio, maybe an amp and a
tri-band antenna don't have a chance in blue haties of ever winning 
an RTTY contest in the SOAB category... because now, in order to 
compete, we ALL must move up to two or more radios and another set 
of antennas!! 

And just why contest sponsors not only refuse to distinguish between 
SO1R and SO2+R but also to completely ignore the issue - when at 
Dayton 2000, a vote to have separate contest categories was 
overwhelmingly approved.. yet totally ignored by all contest sponsors..

and why at dayton 2001, it was forbidden to speak of the SO2R issue 
at the RTTY forum!!!

Apparently  1) an unknown selected group of contest sponsors and/or
operators have an agenda to insure that a selected group of operators 
will 'always' win! or 2) that contest sponsors just don't care! 
Either way, the SOAB SO1R competitor hasn't got a prayer. 
 
I predict that unless contest sponsors take note soon, that serious
contestors will diminish in number and  that the majority of 
participants will be casual in number with only minimally obtained
scores and with fewer and fewer logs submitted.. but the same few will 
always win!!  Some contest - hurray for you and them!

While I highly admire individual operators for developing the skills
and equipment to reach new heights of proficiency in rtty contesting,
I must, in protest, refuse to attend any forum that in essence lends
credibility and/or support to the idea that SO2+R is acceptable
competition for majority of RTTY contestors running SO1R!! I will not
attend!

Tom Moore WX4TM


Frank J Fallon wrote:
> 
> For those of you who love that "FRILL" mode and will be attending Dayton
> this year please plan to be in room #2 on Saturday morning from 9:30 to
> 10:30 on May 18, 2002 for the RTTY Forum.  Here is what I hope they will
> print in the Hamvention booklet.
> 
> 73 de Frank.....N2FF............
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> Dayton 2002 RTTY Forum -
> 
> The topic this year is "The Secrets of SO2R for RTTY: the hardware,
> software and operator skills required."
> 
> Frank Fallon, N2FF, ARRL Hudson Division Director, who has been in RTTY
> contests since 1965 will be the moderator.
> 
> The panel consists of:
> 
> Ron Hill, AA5AU, recognized master of the multi radio art leads off,
> telling us
> how he does it.
> 
> Tyler Stewart, K3MM, will tell us how he turns in the big SO2R score
> using
> WF1B's program.
> 
> Gerry Jankowitz, NO2T, will tell us how he manages with high power using
> stubs and filters.
> 
> John Fleming, WA9ALS, a confessed neophyte, will explain the problems
> newcomers' face.
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