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Re: [TenTec] Built in SWR meter bannans [common mode UNUN location ]

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Built in SWR meter bannans [common mode UNUN location ]
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:09:11 -0500
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In general, considering some length of feed line to the feed point of the antenna, I prefer one of the following methods

Follow this sequence: Transceiver > Amplifier > SWR Bridge > Tuner > 1:1 Balun > coax to antenna.

Another and sometimes preferred sequence is this: Transceiver > Amplifier > SWR Bridge > 1:1 Balun > Tuner > coax to antenna. This also works best with a balanced line is connected to the tuner.

The point being, the UNUN should be located at the output of the SWR device. If the equipment provides a internal SWR measuring method, then the UNUN should be at the output of the equipment before the coax feed to the antenna.

73
Bob, K4TAX






----- Original Message ----- From: "K7TXO" <gfstory@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Built in SWR meter bannans [common mode UNUN location ]


Bob -
For the sake of discussion; for a 1:1 UNUN at the "shack" end of an antenna cable, is there an optimal location for Jim to put this UNUN? I mean, will placing it right at the back of his amplifier out connector be appropriate or outdoors, just outside of the shack?

Gene  /  K7TXO

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Built in SWR meter bannans


Sounds like RF current on the shield when on the antenna and not on the dummy load. I suggest a 1:1 UNUN balun between the amp and the antenna. I've had good success with a product from The Wireman being model #8232. Certainly worth a try.

73
Bob, K4TAX




----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim GM" <jim.gmforum@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:13 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Built in SWR meter bannans


I have a Tec Tec Auto Coupler that is turned off and a Ten Tec Hercules II
at full power. The SWR bridges in side the equipment reads well over SWR
over 3:1 on certain bands while my BIRD Watt meter read 2:1.

ALL SWR meters is at 1:1 into a dummy load so that rules out the BIRD is
whacked.

This problem seams to mainly happen on 160M however I have seen it do this
on different bands with other antennas in the past.

Are the diodes going into saturation? I am going BANNAS with this issue.

--
Jim K9TF
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