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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Zepp?
From: Jim Allen <jim.allen@longhornband.net>
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:52:16 -0500
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That's what I have now, except instead of a balun, I match with an AH-4
remote autotuner which handles it with ease, as long as you don't want to
run more than ~120 watts, which I don't.  It works fairly well at 32' high
at the center and ~12-15' at the ends.  No doubt it would be much better at
64', etc.

I have to wait my turn in pile ups.  OTOH, I am not often bothered by those
loud, pesky 4S7s and VU2's pounding in constantly.  ;>)

73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joel Hallas <jrhallas@optonline.net> wrote:

> Gents,
>
> This is an interesting antenna idea, and I did a quick EZNEC/TLW look on
> the
> 5 major HF bands. Unfortunately, the SWR ranges from a low of 5:1 (80 and
> 10
> meters) to 11:1 on 40. 100 feet of RG-213 will have a loss of more than 2
> dB
> on all bands, except about 1 dB on 80.
>
> An alternative, and what I am using here, is to feed the 130 foot cf
> antenna
> with lower loss window line and a balun at the bottom, with a short length
> of coax to a tuner. Window line is lighter (less sag), cheaper and has less
> loss than coax.
>
> The same discussion about names could take place in the window line realm
> <g>!
>
> Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
> Westport, CT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John F.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
> To: tentec@contesting.com; Jim Allen
> Subject: [TenTec] Zepp?
>
> Jim,
> I like the sound of Zepp better than dipole.  Actually it's probably a
> matter of semantics, and I'm not going to argue how many angels will fit on
> the head of a pin! ;>)  There is a reason I called it a zepp, and I think
> it
> was in the 95 or 98 Handbook.  Terms many have changed by now.
>
> I actually think it's a dipole only on 80 meters, and technically a doublet
> on the other bands!  Ooops, I did it!
>
> 73,
> John, K4AVX
>
> Yes the balun, I think is a 9 to one.  It will load and put out a signal on
> all bands except 160 meters.  Trying to work out an inverted L again on
> that
> band - tricky.
>
>
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:46:59 -0500
> > From: Jim Allen<jim.allen@longhornband.net>
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Tuner
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> > What makes a 130' center fed dipole a Zepp?
> >
> > 73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP<Rick@dj0ip.de>
> wrote:
> >
> >> That is an excellent setup, John.  Nice choice.
> >>
> >> I'm a friend of that antenna too and have used it most of the time
> >> for the past 50 years.
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