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Re: [TenTec] Zepp?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Zepp?
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:11:06 +0200
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Hi Joel,

Rather than 2x 20m legs, try dropping the lengths to 2x 17m.
That should tame 40m a bit without adding any significant loss to 80m.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joel Hallas
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:46 PM
To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Zepp?

Gents,

This is an interesting antenna idea, and I did a quick EZNEC/TLW look on the
5 major HF bands. Unfortunately, the SWR ranges from a low of 5:1 (80 and 10
meters) to 11:1 on 40. 100 feet of RG-213 will have a loss of more than 2 dB
on all bands, except about 1 dB on 80. 

An alternative, and what I am using here, is to feed the 130 foot cf antenna
with lower loss window line and a balun at the bottom, with a short length
of coax to a tuner. Window line is lighter (less sag), cheaper and has less
loss than coax. 

The same discussion about names could take place in the window line realm
<g>!

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John F.
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
To: tentec@contesting.com; Jim Allen
Subject: [TenTec] Zepp?

Jim,
I like the sound of Zepp better than dipole.  Actually it's probably a
matter of semantics, and I'm not going to argue how many angels will fit on
the head of a pin! ;>)  There is a reason I called it a zepp, and I think it
was in the 95 or 98 Handbook.  Terms many have changed by now.

I actually think it's a dipole only on 80 meters, and technically a doublet
on the other bands!  Ooops, I did it!

73,
John, K4AVX

Yes the balun, I think is a 9 to one.  It will load and put out a signal on
all bands except 160 meters.  Trying to work out an inverted L again on that
band - tricky.


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> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:46:59 -0500
> From: Jim Allen<jim.allen@longhornband.net>
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Tuner
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> What makes a 130' center fed dipole a Zepp?
>
> 73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP<Rick@dj0ip.de>
wrote:
>
>> That is an excellent setup, John.  Nice choice.
>>
>> I'm a friend of that antenna too and have used it most of the time 
>> for the past 50 years.
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