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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Zepp?
From: Paul Gates via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Paul Gates <paulgates80@yahoo.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:29:00 -0700
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I do not know what you mean by putting Balun at bottom? I place my balun 
between the openline and the tuner. 130 ft attenna then the SWR is 1:1 on all 
bands.

Paul Gates KW4BD


On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:46 AM, Joel Hallas <jrhallas@optonline.net> 
wrote:
 

>
>
>Gents,
>
>This is an interesting antenna idea, and I did a quick EZNEC/TLW look on the
>5 major HF bands. Unfortunately, the SWR ranges from a low of 5:1 (80 and 10
>meters) to 11:1 on 40. 100 feet of RG-213 will have a loss of more than 2 dB
>on all bands, except about 1 dB on 80. 
>
>An alternative, and what I am using here, is to feed the 130 foot cf antenna
>with lower loss window line and a balun at the bottom, with a short length
>of coax to a tuner. Window line is lighter (less sag), cheaper and has less
>loss than coax. 
>
>The same discussion about names could take place in the window line realm
><g>!
>
>Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
>Westport, CT
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John F.
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
>To: tentec@contesting.com; Jim Allen
>Subject: [TenTec] Zepp?
>
>Jim,
>I like the sound of Zepp better than dipole.  Actually it's probably a
>matter of semantics, and I'm not going to argue how many angels will fit on
>the head of a pin! ;>)  There is a reason I called it a zepp, and I think it
>was in the 95 or 98 Handbook.  Terms many have changed by now.
>
>I actually think it's a dipole only on 80 meters, and technically a doublet
>on the other bands!  Ooops, I did it!
>
>73,
>John, K4AVX
>
>Yes the balun, I think is a 9 to one.  It will load and put out a signal on
>all bands except 160 meters.  Trying to work out an inverted L again on that
>band - tricky.
>
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:46:59 -0500
>> From: Jim Allen<jim.allen@longhornband.net>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Tuner
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>> What makes a 130' center fed dipole a Zepp?
>>
>> 73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP<Rick@dj0ip.de>
>wrote:
>>
>>> That is an excellent setup, John.  Nice choice.
>>>
>>> I'm a friend of that antenna too and have used it most of the time 
>>> for the past 50 years.
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