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Re: [TenTec] OT: Question to the group -tuner and dipoles

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Question to the group -tuner and dipoles
From: Darrell Bellerive <ve7iu@runbox.com>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:45:24 -0700
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A couple more good reads:

http://www.seed-solutions.com/gregordy/Amateur%20Radio/Experimentation/Vee/YagiModel.htm

http://www.w8ji.com/nvis_n_v_i_s_antenna.htm

In the first article above, W8WWV found the maximum vertical gain with a dipole 1/2 wavelength above the ground with a reflector wire 39 feet down from the antenna. Too bad as most of us can't even consider a dipole 131 feet off of the ground!

73, Darrell VE7IU


On 16-07-18 02:28 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
RIGHT!

The usefulness of very low antennas for short distance work is a MYTH.

Slide 19 in this link shows that an 80M dipole produces maximum radiation at high angles (70 degrees) at 60 ft, and that raising it to 90 feet loses only about 1 dB at high angles.

http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf

I won't question that the very low antenna described might be quieter than a high one -- in any given QTH it may be, but it is a LOUSY TX antenna for ANY distance or angle.

73, Jim K9YC

On Mon,7/18/2016 1:26 PM, Darrell Bellerive wrote:
That may work well for receiving, but for transmitting the ground losses at such a low height would be substantial. QRP with 100 watts. :-)

73, Darrell VE7IU

On 16-07-18 01:08 PM, Stuart Rohre wrote:
Working at 1/8 wave above soil, brings as signal to noise gain, in that "skip static" from Summer thunderstorms is greatly attenuated or not picked up at all.

NVIS brought back 80m to usefulness for Field Days due to the reduced noise floor when the antenna was 5 to 6 feet off ground with a reflector at grass top level. (after mowing).

-Stuart Rohre
K5KVH


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