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Re: Topband: Web SDR's and 'Cheating'

To: Dave Heil <k8mn@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: Web SDR's and 'Cheating'
From: Bob Kupps <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:46:43 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Dave,
I'm not asking you (as a group I am taking the your usage of "us" to mean) to 
believe anything. My personal opinion is that ethics, integrity and honor are 
individual rather than absolute values. I have no idea what the current DXCC or 
any other award/contest rules are but if they are violated then that 
participant should be disqualified; however the OP made no mention of the QSOs 
using this method being used for credit in any awards program or contest 
results. So I reiterate my opinion that in the absence of any legal or rule 
violations the ethics and merit of making a contact using this method, just 
like using DX helper nets, cluster spots, remote control super stations, 
QRP/QRO etc. are a matter for the individual to judge for himself.
73 Bob HS0ZIA

--- On Sat, 2/12/11, Dave Heil <k8mn@frontiernet.net> wrote:

From: Dave Heil <k8mn@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: Web SDR's and 'Cheating'
To: "Bob Kupps" <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 11:54 AM

Bob,

Would you have us believe that ethics, integrity and honor are optional? 
  People have been disqualified from the DXCC program for less.

Dave Heil K8MN

On 2/11/2011 03 21, Bob Kupps wrote:
> Seems to me like just another step from DX "U work em" nets and packet 
> cluster spots.
> Why do we need to have an "ethical position" on this? Unless this technic is 
> used to gain an advantage in a contest or award program where it is 
> prohibited by the rules then like all activities where no one is being harmed 
> the ethics are up to the individual.
>
> If you personally think this activity is improper then just don't allow it on 
> your machine.
> 73 Bob HS0ZIA
> --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Brendan Minish<ei6iz.brendan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> From: Brendan Minish<ei6iz.brendan@gmail.com>
> Subject: Topband: Web SDR's and 'Cheating'
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 3:38 AM
>
> Hello all
>
> I have a Software Defined Receiver (SDR) that I make available when I am
> not using it for others to use. it's an SDR-14 and is usually connected
> to one of my beverages via a multi-coupler so it hears and performs well
> Software wise , anyone using sdrradio can connect to it.
> the latency is alos very low with sdrradio.
>
> I am happy to make this available to others because in turn I enjoy
> using internet connected SDR's provided by others
>
> last night however I took a listen to what the connected user was
> listening to, It turns out that the connected user was a DX station
> utilising my SDR to work 160m SSB. He had a pileup of EU stations and
> was utilising my SDR to better hear his pileup.
> Surely this is 'not on' After all the EU stations may have been able to
> hear him (although I could not copy him better than about 21 here)
> But he was using a receiver within Europe to hear the EU stations calling.
>
> What is the ethical position on this, it sure seems wrong to me
>
>
>



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