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Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 157, Issue 38 Neutralizing your 833As

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Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 157, Issue 38 Neutralizing your 833As
From: "Dave Olean" <k1whs@metrocast.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 18:20:41 -0000
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Hi Mike
You need a signal generator and a crystal detector to sniff in that amp. Feed a low level signal in with the filaments on but HV off and see how much RF leaks thru to the output connector, then mess around with neutralization schemes until the RF drops way down. I do that all the time and it works great. I have neutralized a six meter KW with a 4CX1000A, a bunch of 4CX 250B amps and driver amps, etc. It never failed. Shoot for 10 dB or more attenuation than the tube can produce and it should work FB. The nice part is no high voltage to worry about. You can get the neutralizing wire or the cap set for a perfect null at your frequency pretty fast. I used to use a signal generator wiyth an HP 415E VSWR indicator. Put 1000 Hz audio modulation on the signal generator and you can read attenuation right off the meter on the 415.. Slick! Now I have two port a vector network analyzer, so the HP 415 sits on the shelf, but either method is quick.

Dave K1WHS




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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Palmyra cursed paradise (K5P) (Mike Waters)
  2. 2016 Visalia Top Band Dinner (wb6rse1@mac.com)
  3. Re: 160m monoband amp (was strange propagation) (Mike Waters)
  4. Re: Palmyra cursed paradise (K5P) (Carl Braun)
  5. Re: 160m monoband amp (was strange propagation)
     (Louis Parascondola)
  6. Robot contester (Louis Parascondola)
  7. Re: Robot contester (Louis Parascondola)
  8. Re: Amateur stations (Cecil Acuff)
  9. Re: Topband Strange Propagation (Richard (Rick) Karlquist)
 10. Re: Any way to check isolation transformer for FCP
     (Guy Olinger K2AV)
 11. Commscope SFX-500 - need SFX-ANF connectors - OT (Gary Smith)
 12. Re: Topband Strange Propagation (Louis Parascondola)
 13. Re: K5P in Zone 14 (Jan Erik Holm)
 14. Re: K5P in Zone 14 (Jim Brown)
 15. Re: Topband Strange Propagation (Kenneth Grimm)
 16. K5P good job ! (Mike Smith VE9AA)
 17. Re: K5P good job ! (Tim Shoppa)
 18. Re: Any way to check isolation transformer for FCP
     (Andrejs Pankins)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:54:20 -0600
From: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
To: Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net>
Cc: 160 <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Palmyra cursed paradise (K5P)
Message-ID:
<CA+FxYXjGSU92mQDF49StmNjiWPNb60Hue9O4ncDC9rhNo1z-TA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Art,

Whether or not elevated radials would help K5P, what you stated is NOT pure
speculation! :-)
Generally speaking, it is well-established that we can use far fewer
elevated radials under a vertical than ground mounted radials, for the same
efficiency.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Art Snapper <art@nk8x.net> wrote:

I wonder how good the ground conductivity is on an atoll? Perhaps
elevating the radials would help.

My $0.02 of pure speculation.



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:56:13 -0800
From: wb6rse1@mac.com
To: Top Band List List <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: 2016 Visalia Top Band Dinner
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Announcing the 2016 Top Band Dinner at the Visalia IDXC April 15, 2016.
Craig Thompson, K9CT, will present: ?Top Band from Palmyra, K5P.?
There will be a self-serve buffet dinner and door prizes.
Complete details and registration information can be found at http://topbanddinner.jimdo.com

73! - Steve WB6RSE



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:40:12 -0600
From: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
To: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
Cc: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 160m monoband amp (was strange propagation)
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Hi Lou,

Of all the sources of unique help and info about 160 meters, IMO this
reflector is the best one.
I suppose you've found the searchable archives, which I've found invaluable
many times:

lists.contesting.com/archives//html/Topband/

lists.contesting.com/archives//cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?idxname=Topband

There are other sources, notably ON4UN's Low Band DXing, published by the
ARRL. Everyone with an interest in 160m should own a copy.

There are a number of other informative web sites out there, too. I have
some of them listed and linked to from www.w0btu.com (not all on one page,
sorry). And there's a page there about Beverage antennas there that you
might find useful.


Maybe you would let me pick your brain sometime about my swamped-grid
dual-833C legal limit amp. It works fine on 160 and 80, but it needs
neutralizing if it's going to be stable on 40 (and work at all on 20). I
have a plan to neutralize it using a tertiary winding on the input
transformer, but I foresee a lot of trial and error. But I don't have time
to work on that right now.

I wasn't even sure if two of those triodes in parallel would even work, so
I didn't spend a lot of time making it look pretty.
www.w0btu.com/833C_linear_amplifier.html

Stick around, Lou. Believe it or not, this is usually a friendly forum!

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com


On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Louis Parascondola via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:

I came to the group to try to pick up pointers on improving my 160 meter
experience.  In the short two weeks I have been here I have so much
information to digest.  Especially with receiving antennas,



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 00:42:29 +0000
From: Carl Braun <Carl.Braun@lairdtech.com>
To: Doug Turnbull <turnbull@net1.ie>
Cc: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Palmyra cursed paradise (K5P)
Message-ID: <5AB54427-474F-4F8D-A1A1-339625548D90@lairdtech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Doug.

Awesome read. Has me wondering about our guys on the island.

Maybe the "darkness" of the island has something to do with the S9+ signals we're seeing here in San Diego. Hi.

Carl AG6X

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:26 PM, "Doug Turnbull" <turnbull@net1.ie> wrote:

Dear OMs and Yls,
    The following link was posted me by Don EI6IL and tells a very
interesting story of woe and murder on Palmyra Island going back to the very discovery of the atoll. Slightly off topic but many of us have illusions of working K5P so this may be of interest and also add a bit of spice. The
cursed paradise is a good read:

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/07/the-cursed-paradise-of-palmyra-atoll/


     Yes EU feels the W6 pain this time and the poor cousins of EI in DL
and I lands are even worse off than in EI for K5P. At least the EI path is
over ocean and tundra rather than thousands of fellow hams.

      Good hunting.
                73 Doug EI2CN


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:59:31 -0500
From: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
To: mikewate@gmail.com
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 160m monoband amp (was strange propagation)
Message-ID: <1524d1819db-65c6-111e1@webprd-m66.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Thanks Mike, I'm not going anywhere. I hope that Tom reconsiders his leaving. If you look at the time and effort he spent on his website which he always updates and adds to, and the efforts he puts forth on the various reflectors you have to say it is nothing less than admirable. A handful of people do such things and many of them are on here also. So I agree, this is the place to be. I've know about this reflector for years but never bothered with it since my interest in 160 was nil. Recently I made a decision to give it a crack and boy do I see it is a whole lot different than working even 80 meters and above. Lou W1QJ



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
To: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
Cc: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: 160m monoband amp (was strange propagation)




Hi Lou,


Of all the sources of unique help and info about 160 meters, IMO this reflector is the best one. I suppose you've found the searchable archives, which I've found invaluable many times:

lists.contesting.com/archives//html/Topband/

lists.contesting.com/archives//cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?idxname=Topband

There are other sources, notably ON4UN's Low Band DXing, published by the ARRL. Everyone with an interest in 160m should own a copy.


There are a number of other informative web sites out there, too. I have some of them listed and linked to from www.w0btu.com (not all on one page, sorry). And there's a page there about Beverage antennas there that you might find useful.



Maybe you would let me pick your brain sometime about my swamped-grid dual-833C legal limit amp. It works fine on 160 and 80, but it needs neutralizing if it's going to be stable on 40 (and work at all on 20). I have a plan to neutralize it using a tertiary winding on the input transformer, but I foresee a lot of trial and error. But I don't have time to work on that right now.

I wasn't even sure if two of those triodes in parallel would even work, so I didn't spend a lot of time making it look pretty.
www.w0btu.com/833C_linear_amplifier.html


Stick around, Lou. Believe it or not, this is usually a friendly forum!



73, Mike

www.w0btu.com







On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Louis Parascondola via Topband <topband@contesting.com> wrote:

I came to the group to try to pick up pointers on improving my 160 meter experience. In the short two weeks I have been here I have so much information to digest. Especially with receiving antennas,








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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:06:39 -0500
From: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Robot contester
Message-ID: <1524d1ea36d-65c6-11200@webprd-m66.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Hopefully you can get this file.  Just another twist on operating.




Listen to the attached recording, a robot, operating the contest






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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 20:09:11 -0500
From: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Robot contester
Message-ID: <1524d20f5b1-65c6-11210@webprd-m66.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Sorry, file stripped. Lou W1QJ



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From: Louis Parascondola via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 8:06 pm
Subject: Topband: Robot contester


Hopefully you can get this file.  Just another twist on operating.




Listen to the attached recording, a robot, operating the contest




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:20:44 -0600
From: Cecil Acuff <chacuff@cableone.net>
To: Roger D Johnson <n1rj@roadrunner.com>
Cc: Top Band Reflector <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Amateur stations
Message-ID: <DCC91FD1-52E9-4F9A-9827-CF129176B5F1@cableone.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Probably a good choice...



On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Roger D Johnson <n1rj@roadrunner.com> wrote:

One final comment and then I'll be silent.





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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:49:07 -0800
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
To: Gary@ka1j.com, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation
Message-ID: <569B0F33.1050104@karlquist.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed



On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

There's an odd behavior that we've all heard & that's the "ditter",
the person who on the DX frequency sends the occasional dit, not a
string, just a dit & then some odd seconds later does it again. I
wonder if they do it to bust the chops of someone like me who tries

KA1J


Some auto tune linears are set up to change bands or sub-bands
by sending one dit.  With peak reading meters, they will also
display RF out and SWR from one dit.  At least this is a lot
less QRM than tuning up the old fashioned way.  In both
cases, the solution is to select SPLIT before transmitting
or just tuning.

Most rigs have IF gain this is optimized for phone, which
means it is way too low for CW.  This results in an AGC
threshold that is way above the rig's internal noise level.

Short of redesigning the rig (I actually did this to an FT-757
by adding an IF gain stage), you should use an audio attenuator
in front of your headphones so the the rig's audio output stage
clips before the level in 'phones gets too high.

Rick N6RK


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:04:09 -0500
From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
To: Andrejs Pankins <yl2qn.andy@gmail.com>
Cc: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Any way to check isolation transformer for FCP
Message-ID:
<CANckpc3=6QqafVzo_AypkfM15GHti+bTr3MkwHhn56y-QfNNOA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Andy,

I'll be responding to you off reflector tomorrow. 73, Guy K2AV

On Saturday, January 16, 2016, Andrejs Pankins <yl2qn.andy@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Need your help. For a long time can't get working FCP for my Inverted L.

I'm looking for some way to check quality of my homemade isolation
transformer. I'm connect primary to 50 Ohm dummy load and secondary to
Antenna Analyzer. Get reading @1850 Ra=28 Ohm and Rx=34 Ohm. Rx is raised
with frequency. Inductance for primary and secondary is 5.7uH. Capacitance
between primary and secondary is 140 pF.

These reading looks normal or somthing wrong ? I'm expected 1:1 impedance
transformation without additional Rx.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

Regards,
Andy - YL2QN
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:42:03 -0500
From: "Gary Smith" <Gary@ka1j.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Commscope SFX-500 - need SFX-ANF connectors - OT
Message-ID: <569B1B9B.31971.3E9608@Gary.ka1j.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

A friend gave me some Commscope 1/2" heliax but had no connectors to
go with it. Its out of production hardline and Commscope can't help
with connectors. It requires SFX-ANF for a N connector, they didn't
make one with a PL-259. Would anyone have two or four of these
connectors they'd like to part with?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 00:31:34 -0500
From: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
To: richard@karlquist.com, Gary@ka1j.com, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation
Message-ID: <1524e112c87-65c6-115c5@webprd-m66.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I have experienced this single dit when working split on a DX station. I wondered if it was some kind of malicious interference of some sort but other than what Gary suggested I don't see how it is terribly annoying to the point that one would be making any statement by doing it.


W1QJ



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
To: Gary <Gary@ka1j.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation



On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

There's an odd behavior that we've all heard & that's the "ditter",
the person who on the DX frequency sends the occasional dit, not a
string, just a dit & then some odd seconds later does it again. I
wonder if they do it to bust the chops of someone like me who tries

KA1J


Some auto tune linears are set up to change bands or sub-bands
by sending one dit.  With peak reading meters, they will also
display RF out and SWR from one dit.  At least this is a lot
less QRM than tuning up the old fashioned way.  In both
cases, the solution is to select SPLIT before transmitting
or just tuning.

Most rigs have IF gain this is optimized for phone, which
means it is way too low for CW.  This results in an AGC
threshold that is way above the rig's internal noise level.

Short of redesigning the rig (I actually did this to an FT-757
by adding an IF gain stage), you should use an audio attenuator
in front of your headphones so the the rig's audio output stage
clips before the level in 'phones gets too high.

Rick N6RK
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 07:48:23 +0100
From: Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm@bdtv.se>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: K5P in Zone 14
Message-ID: <569B3937.7050201@bdtv.se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Yesterday to my big surprise I could copy K5P on 160m for
about 30 minutes, seemed to peak around 1445Z. They where
as strong as 559 on the peaks with deep QSB. I never ever
was thinking it was possible to even hear them the way
160m is these days.
However they does not seem to RX very well. Me and OH6KN
and one or two others was calling but K5P mostly was calling
CQ.
Big problem also was that the K5P operator never did announce
the RX frequency, he seemed to listen both up and down.
I am sorry but this is a very bad way of operating.

73 Jim SM2EKM
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On 2016-01-16 18:31, Doug Turnbull wrote:
Dear OMs,
Please do not think I am criticizing the team. So far at 17:27 GMT on Jan16 there has only been one 160M QSO with zone 14 which includes EI, G, DL
etc.    The propagation gods are not favouring us at all.   K5P is a hard
reach on most bands and once you go away from 17 through 40 meters there are
literally only about five QSOs total on the other bands.

Some are losing their reason and making poor comments which reflect badly on both them and their nations. We as a hobby need to do better in
recognizing the troubles of the DXpedition.

                   73 Doug EI2CN



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:57:19 -0800
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: K5P in Zone 14
Message-ID: <569B3B4F.10008@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

On Sat,1/16/2016 10:48 PM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Yesterday to my big surprise I could copy K5P on 160m for
about 30 minutes, seemed to peak around 1445Z. They where
as strong as 559 on the peaks with deep QSB. I never ever
was thinking it was possible to even hear them the way
160m is these days.
1445Z is good propagation to western NA (west coast sunrise), so they
were probably listening there. If they knew there was propagation to EU,
they would probably have listened there instead. Let your pilot know.

Big problem also was that the K5P operator never did announce
the RX frequency, he seemed to listen both up and down.
I am sorry but this is a very bad way of operating.

They are very close to JA. JA can TX 1810 to 1825. K5P TX is 1825.5.
They listen DOWN for JA, UP for everyone else.

73, Jim K9YC


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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 07:36:22 -0500
From: Kenneth Grimm <grimm@sbc.edu>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation
Message-ID:
<CAN1acjYJWPydnGgxEuxwRe3rycpmU2dVKJs4qA9NcJ87qdJRQw@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

My take on it was that "the dit marks the spot" either for a buddy or just
as a "public service."  While not as annoying as other forms of
transmissions on the DX freq, it still shows bad manners...however, not as
bad as when I forget to engage the split button.  Maybe that is why I've
never been nominated for the A1 op award.  At least it's why I wouldn't
nominate me.

73,

Ken - K4XL

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:31 AM, Louis Parascondola via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:

I have experienced this single dit when working split on a DX station.  I
wondered if it was some kind of malicious interference of some sort but
other than what Gary suggested I don't see how it is terribly annoying to
the point that one would be making any statement by doing it.


W1QJ



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
To: Gary <Gary@ka1j.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation



On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

> There's an odd behavior that we've all heard & that's the "ditter",
> the person who on the DX frequency sends the occasional dit, not a
> string, just a dit & then some odd seconds later does it again. I
> wonder if they do it to bust the chops of someone like me who tries

> KA1J
>

Some auto tune linears are set up to change bands or sub-bands
by sending one dit.  With peak reading meters, they will also
display RF out and SWR from one dit.  At least this is a lot
less QRM than tuning up the old fashioned way.  In both
cases, the solution is to select SPLIT before transmitting
or just tuning.

Most rigs have IF gain this is optimized for phone, which
means it is way too low for CW.  This results in an AGC
threshold that is way above the rig's internal noise level.

Short of redesigning the rig (I actually did this to an FT-757
by adding an IF gain stage), you should use an audio attenuator
in front of your headphones so the the rig's audio output stage
clips before the level in 'phones gets too high.

Rick N6RK
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:55:36 -0400
From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
To: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: K5P good job !
Message-ID: <000d01d1512e$cef5dd60$6ce19820$@nbnet.nb.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Whoever the 160m op was this morning was doing a really great job, moving
right along at aprox 32-33wpm.  (I have to wonder if it was K9CT)

I managed to get in the log at 1155z (10mins before SR here), however there
were a few W1's and a VE1 that were worked 10-15mins before that.



What surprised me (why, I don't know-It just does, even after many decades) was when K5P would say AA0R? AA0R?, .WB2Z.'s, KB4Q.'s and VE7S..'s would all
come back to him.  Yes, most did stop calling, so I have to wonder...are
these folks just plain rude or were they not hearing K5P well enough to
discern who he was coming back to?



Now, In full disclosure, I am no saint, and have been known to respond to a
DX stn if there's an unruly p/u I hear something like VE3A? VE3A? or 9AA?,
9AA? ,IT9A? IT9A? or VE8AU? VE8AU? or VE1AAA? VE1AAA? but all those dance
around my call (VE9AA). If there's any change "away" from my call, I stop
calling. I also listen to my xmit QRG and if there's someone with a closer
call, I will stop calling.  Luckily, it almost always starts off with VE9?
or 9AA? so I am good 99% of the time and rarely step on anyones toes. (and
always feel bad if I do)



If the DX said WB6Z? I certainly wouldn't call.  Full credit to the K5P op
who tried to stick with it til he figured the original caller wasn't hearing him or they were getting pummeled so badly from calls not even close to the original, that he moved on. Rate is king when time is limited.(dxpeditions
only have so many days)



gah !



Anyways, they were doing an incredible job despite incessant callers..some
of whom NEVER stopped calling.  They were in here solid for a good hour at
about 529-549 (no preamp on), inverted L @ 35' a mile of radials..and up to
26mins past SR here before slipping into the dust.



Well done Islanders ! Well done.



Mike VE9AA



Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB





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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:10:16 -0500
From: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com>
To: topBand List <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: K5P good job !
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Mike, if you go to clublog.org, search K5P DXpedition log for your call,
and mouse over the greenie, you will see the operator for your QSO (his
call and picture). I don't think they've uploaded this morning's QSO's yet
but they are doing uploads several times a day.

W0GJ was the operator for my 160M QSO. Sharp looking guy!

Tim N3QE

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

Whoever the 160m op was this morning was doing a really great job, moving
right along at aprox 32-33wpm.  (I have to wonder if it was K9CT)

I managed to get in the log at 1155z (10mins before SR here), however there
were a few W1's and a VE1 that were worked 10-15mins before that.



What surprised me (why, I don't know-It just does, even after many decades)
was when K5P would say AA0R? AA0R?, .WB2Z.'s, KB4Q.'s and VE7S..'s would
all
come back to him.  Yes, most did stop calling, so I have to wonder...are
these folks just plain rude or were they not hearing K5P well enough to
discern who he was coming back to?



Now, In full disclosure, I am no saint, and have been known to respond to a DX stn if there's an unruly p/u I hear something like VE3A? VE3A? or 9AA?,
9AA? ,IT9A? IT9A? or VE8AU? VE8AU? or VE1AAA? VE1AAA? but all those dance
around my call (VE9AA). If there's any change "away" from my call, I stop
calling. I also listen to my xmit QRG and if there's someone with a closer call, I will stop calling. Luckily, it almost always starts off with VE9? or 9AA? so I am good 99% of the time and rarely step on anyones toes. (and
always feel bad if I do)



If the DX said WB6Z? I certainly wouldn't call. Full credit to the K5P op
who tried to stick with it til he figured the original caller wasn't
hearing
him or they were getting pummeled so badly from calls not even close to the original, that he moved on. Rate is king when time is limited.(dxpeditions
only have so many days)



gah !



Anyways, they were doing an incredible job despite incessant callers..some of whom NEVER stopped calling. They were in here solid for a good hour at about 529-549 (no preamp on), inverted L @ 35' a mile of radials..and up to
26mins past SR here before slipping into the dust.



Well done Islanders ! Well done.



Mike VE9AA



Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB



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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 18:24:07 +0200
From: Andrejs Pankins <yl2qn.andy@gmail.com>
To: William Shanney <wshanney@verizon.net>, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Any way to check isolation transformer for FCP
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William,

Thanks for idea. Are you absolutely right - 5uH is too small for 160m.

Looks like I have a wrong toroid. After playing with amidon toroid
calculator, I found that 20 turns on T300 will give around 5uH (like mine),
T300A-2 will give 45.6uH

Regards,
Andy - YL2QN


On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 1:52 AM, William Shanney <wshanney@verizon.net>
wrote:

5.7 uH sounds too low for 160M, I?d want ten times that to keep the
winding impedance >>50 ohms.

Bill, W6QR
> On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Andrejs Pankins <yl2qn.andy@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Need your help. For a long time can't get working FCP for my Inverted > L.
>
> I'm looking for some way to check quality of my homemade isolation
> transformer. I'm connect primary to 50 Ohm dummy load and secondary to
> Antenna Analyzer. Get reading @1850 Ra=28 Ohm and Rx=34 Ohm. Rx is > raised
> with frequency. Inductance for primary and secondary is 5.7uH.
Capacitance
> between primary and secondary is 140 pF.
>
> These reading looks normal or somthing wrong ? I'm expected 1:1 > impedance
> transformation without additional Rx.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
>
> Regards,
> Andy - YL2QN
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