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Re: [TowerTalk] Equipment suggestions or donations

To: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@centurytel.net>, "Towertalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Equipment suggestions or donations
From: "NE6V" <NE6V@roadrunner.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:51:26 -0700
List-post: <towertalk@contesting.com">mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Good morning to all,

If I may ask what or how do these "current" submissions do with Towers? Its 
up to the admin to regulate who is here so Mr.Marlon is here, lets embrace 
him, educate him and we will all be better ... including ham radio with 
another member to our great hobby.

Have a great day~ Field day is fast approaching~ Are you and your club 
ready?
73
de
NE6V
Joe Vega
ARRL Los Angeles Section Affiliated Club Coordinator
Cong.Dist 29 SW-Division LAA-ARRL
ARRL LAX-OO
ARRL Life Member
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@centurytel.net>
To: "Blake Bowers" <bbowers@mozarks.com>; "Marlon K. Schafer" 
<ooe@odessaoffice.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Equipment suggestions or donations


> Blake-
> You may have a point.
> Bill-W4BSG
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Blake Bowers" <bbowers@mozarks.com>
> To: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@centurytel.net>; "Marlon K. Schafer"
> <ooe@odessaoffice.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Equipment suggestions or donations
>
>
>> HAM Tradition, law, and mores?  Come on - just because Marlon
>> takes a bath once and a while, don't blame him for violating HAM rules.
>>
>> (And before a hundred HAMS take offense, think about some of the
>> people at the last hamfest you attended)
>>
>> Where in the post did he talk about breaking the law, intent to break the
>> law?  He did say two meter or 440 radio, but he never made one single
>> comment about transmitting.   I took it clearly that he was just going to
>> provide the technology - not the operation.
>>
>> Without getting or requesting pay?  Tell that to the many HAM groups
>> that put in for reimbursement for operational expenses while operating
>> an emergency, and get it.   Tell that to the many HAM operators that
>> get reimbursed expenses for state sponsored exercises.
>>
>> Where was the lack of knowledge about part 97?  Remember, he
>> NEVER said he was going to be transmitting, nor operating the radios.
>>
>> Lets talk about the age old HAM tradition of Elmering - rather than
>> calling
>> people out immediatly for supposed violations of tradition.  Teaching
>> rather
>> than flying off the handle half cocked.
>>
>> Signing your call on email?  Strictly a matter of personal preference.  I
>> could put down my HAM call, my GROL, my numerous commercial
>> licenses, my drivers license, my short size, etc.  None of those make me
>> any better a person than the next person.  Heck, if I was going to put
>> down the title that I am most proud of I would sign every post with
>> Grandpa.
>>
>> Blake Bowers
>> Grandpa
>> Dad
>> Husband
>> Fire Chief
>> President of this and that organization
>> Commercial tower owner
>> Radio shop owner
>> KD4RME
>> Numerous other FCC licenses
>> Lots of other stuff.  (One must remember, its all just "stuff")
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@centurytel.net>
>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <ooe@odessaoffice.com>; 
>> <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Equipment suggestions or donations
>>
>>
>>> Marlon-- Thanks for the clarification.
>>>
>>> As you  have probably noted, your post had several "Triggers" that were
>>> contrary to Ham tradition, law, and Mores.  In addition, there were
>>> indications that you (if unlicensed) were about to break several parts 
>>> of
>>> the law we live by.
>>>
>>> We, as hams, are proud of our identity as hams; we can identify 
>>> thousands
>>> of
>>> other Hams, world-wide, by  our Callsign. Mine is W4BSG, and was first
>>> issued to me, after passing a test on technology, legal aspects, and
>>> skills,
>>> at the FCC office in Boston, Mass., in 1954. In communications such as
>>> this
>>> list, we usually sign our calls. Since you did not, alert signals
>>> automatically popped up. As it is, those signals were right-- you are 
>>> not
>>> a
>>> Ham.
>>>
>>> Additional alerts were some of the indicators of a lack of knowledge of
>>> the
>>> rules we live by-- known as "Part 97 of the FCC Code". This is the law
>>> about
>>> electromagnetic radiation, as it pertains to Hams in the United States.
>>>
>>> Other alerts applied to ignorance of the Amateur ("Ham") tradition. One
>>> of
>>> the main ones is the providing of emergency communications without
>>> getting,
>>> or expecting, pay.
>>>
>>> Enough- You will hear from a lot of others, as I have noted on the list.
>>>
>>> Good Luck-- Bill--W4BSG
>>>
>>
>>
>
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