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From: dj2001 at mn.rr.com (dj2001@mn.rr.com)
Date: Fri Mar 28 09:59:31 2003
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>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:00:31 -0600
>To: "Ian White, G3SEK" <g3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
>From: dj2001@mn.rr.com
>Subject: Re: [Amps] Filament Inrush Control
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>Thanks for the good explaination Ian, this is the first time I've 
>fiddled with step start.  I'll leave it alone for now, but the next 
>time I open it up maybe I'll try a 12v dc relay which I already have.
>
>73
>Dale K9VUJ
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>>>I'm using a 40 ohm and it seems to pull in almost right away.  I 
>>>still hear a thump when the power is turned on which leads me to 
>>>think it's not delaying enough.  I wonder if a 100 ohm might be a 
>>>better choice. It's a AL80A amp.
>>>
>>>>Depends on the size resistor you use and how big the filter cap 
>>>>is in the supply. I select resistor size so that it pulls in 
>>>>after a short delay of a second or so. Too large a resistor and 
>>>>the voltage will never get high enough to pull the relay in.
>>
>>The delay isn't really a key parameter. The big current surge is 
>>over within a 3-4 mains cycles. After that, the current slowly 
>>ramps down, so you can short out the series resistor as soon as you 
>>like. When the relay pulls in, there is a second current surge - a 
>>step-up in current to the normal standby level.
>>
>>The optimum is probably to make the first and second steps about 
>>equal. If the series resistor is too low, the first step is too 
>>big, but the second step is only small because the capacitors are 
>>already almost charged up. If the series resistor is too big, the 
>>first step is small but there's a big thump when the resistor is 
>>shorted out.
>>
>>A good rule of thumb is to limit the first step to about the normal 
>>operating current, which all the components should be rated to 
>>handle comfortably. For example, if an amp runs from 230V and draws 
>>up to 13A, the surge resistor could be as low as 230/13 = 18 ohms, 
>>or maybe 22 ohms. So even at worst, the first surge can never 
>>exceed the normal operating current. You might go up to 30 or even 
>>50 ohms, but there's no point in going as high as 100 - that only 
>>increases the size of the second step.
>>
>>In an SB-1000 (fraternal twin to the AL-80A) I've had good results 
>>with a 47 ohm resistor, shorted by a 12V DC relay connected to the 
>>existing 12V rail. This is a version of Rich's step-start - it 
>>works very well and it couldn't be simpler.
>>
>>No timing components are needed. Everything is supplied from the 
>>one big transformer, so whenever the 12V rail comes up far enough 
>>to operate the relay, that will be the right time to short out the 
>>resistor. In practice this is a small fraction of a second.
>>
>>If I'd had a suitable 33 ohm resistor handy, I might have used that 
>>in preference to the 47 ohms - but definitely not 100 ohms.
>>
>>The amp is permanently wired for European 230V mains, and is 
>>protected by a fast 10A fuse which never blows.
>>
>>
>>--
>>73 from Ian G3SEK         'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
>>                            Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book'
>>http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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