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[Amps] G-G Amplifiers With No Tuned Input.

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Subject: [Amps] G-G Amplifiers With No Tuned Input.
From: 2 at vc.net (2)
Date: Sat May 3 17:37:17 2003

>Roger, Rich; I'm  still where I have been :
> I think the only question is what wattage rating to use for the resistor,
>and I don't have anything of that nature anyway. Seems it might have to be
>at least 50 watts, maybe more.!! However, considering the "on " time , for
>SSB maybe not.!!!

**  The typical duty-cycle for SSB 2-way is c. 15%.  I stock some 
low-L,3W-CCS @70?C Matsushita MOF resistors that will easily do 15w each 
in SSB service.  With the ultra-fast diode shipment, I will include 
enough of these resistors to series/parallel and make a 50-ohm, or 
60-ohm, or 70-ohm termination at 100w pep SSB.  // These resistors are so 
durable they can be operated glowing dull-red in the dark, which is 12w 
continuous diss.//
. 
>  what's your guess??
>   carl / kz5ca
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "2" <2@vc.net>
>To: "carl seyersdahl" <carlseye@tampabay.rr.com>; " AMPS"
><amps@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [Amps] G-G Amplifiers With No Tuned Input.
>
>
>>
>>
>> >Rich: that sounds like an interesting idea.!!
>> > I'm working on a gla1000, plain model, modified with
>> >EL509's, and would love to test such an idea. I have tried several other
>> >things, like tuned inputs, a broadband input transformer, and not had
>much
>> >luck . what is the no. of the diode you mentioned.???
>>
>> **  I purchased ten of 'em to distribute free for R and D.  Are you still
>> at 7509 Wakulla Dr. ?
>> --  My guess is that the input terminator R that the diode goes in series
>> with should be 50 - 75 ohms.  If you try the idea, please post your
>> findings on AMPS.  Need a termination R ?
>>
>> have phun, Carl
>>
>> >   carl / kz5ca
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "2" <2@vc.net>
>> >To: " AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:27 PM
>> >Subject: [Amps] G-G Amplifiers With No Tuned Input.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Amplifiers such as the MLA-2500, SB-230, 374, 78, and 76PA have no
>tuned
>> >> input.  This is not a problem when such a g-g amplifier is driven by a
>> >> tube-output radio such as the TS-830S.  The reason is that although the
>> >> input Z of a cathode-driven triode fluctuates from roughly 1/3 of the
>> >> average driving Z on negative peaks to a virtual open circuit on
>positive
>> >> peaks, the Pi-network tuned circuit in a tube-output radio acts as a
>> >> flywheel to smooth out the Z fluctuation at the cathode/s.  However,
>with
>> >> modern solid-state radios there is no tuned output, so something is
>> >> needed to smooth the Z fluctuation.  A possible workaround, short of
>> >> adding a bank of tuned input circuits, might be to put a ultra fast
>> >> recovery diode in series with the input terminating R.  The diode is
>> >> oriented so that the terminating R conducts only when the driving
>> >> potential is positive -- which is when the tube is not conducting..
>> >> Thus, on the negative half of the driving cycle, when the tube has a
>low
>> >> driving Z, no driving power is lost in the terminating R and the driver
>> >> should see a lower SWR.
>> >> - -  Unfortunately, I do not own such an amplifier to test the idea on.
>> >> If anyone out there has such an amplifier and is willing to test this
>> >> idea, please inform me and I will send you a freebee 2A, 35nS, 300v
>> >> switch diode.
>> >>
>>
>>
>> -  R. L. Measures, a.k.a. Rich..., 805.386.3734, AG6K,
>> www.vcnet.com/measures.
>> end
>>
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>
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-  R. L. Measures, a.k.a. Rich..., 805.386.3734, AG6K, 
www.vcnet.com/measures.  
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