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To: "larry williamson" <lgwsaw@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] post
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:42:45 -0800
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On Dec 21, 2004, at 5:36 PM, larry williamson wrote:


Just wondering if anyone has had this problem with this amp. My amp
is still under warranty so that is good. Anyhow, after having the
amp on standby for about 1 hour, a very loud bang and is heard.
After a call to Willie at Ameritron. We came up with a bad tube and
a blown 51-ohm grid resister.

Larry -- A bad tube does not make a big bang because an arc in a vacuum is not noisy. For example, when testing a vacuum-C, when the high-pot tester potential rises to the breakdown point and the C arcs, the sound heard is barely audible because there is no atmosphere around the arc to transmit sound. Thus, the sound you heard probably originated in the atmosphere, not in a vacuum.
- Big-bangs and blown grid resistors often accompany intermittent VHF parasites. The way to determine whether a parasite or a gassy tube blew the grid-fuse R is to measure the anode-grid leakage current of the tube with a high-potential tester. Set the tester to c. 2x the anode-V that is present in the amplifier and measure leakage current. If the current is under 10uA, the tube does not have a bad vacuum.


The D117 diode is was ok and did not
need replaced. Now this has happened two times now on different
tubes. Willie said it was a tube problem and the quality of the
china tubes was not that good.

Early Chinese tubes had problems -- especially with the glass recipe. Recently produced Chinese tubes seem to be pretty good -- If they are in a stable amplifier. In an amplifier that is marginally stable, the better the tube, the greater the chance of regeneration and stentorian bangs.


He also said not to leave the amp in
standby very long.
Has anyone got any thought this?

-- The TL-922 is probably the best example of an amplifier that is unstable in standby. An HF amplifier should be unconditionally VHF-stable in both standby and operate. The way to achieve this is to artificially reduce the VHF gain of the tube by decreasing the VHF-Q of the parasitic suppressor. cheerz



Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734. www.somis.org

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