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Re: [Amps] MLA-2500B Question

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Subject: Re: [Amps] MLA-2500B Question
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Reply-to: craxd1@ezwv.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:29:11 -0500
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Tony,

Even the old 10-11 meter sweep tube amps had a tuned input, or at least the 
better ones of them. They even knew it was better than not having any at all. 
Most of those used a tuned transformer feeding either the cathode(s) or the 
grid(s). Same thing applies to any amp IMHO.

Best,

Will

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On 3/28/05 at 10:57 PM Tony King - W4ZT wrote:

>Tomm Aldridge wrote:
>
>> This is an interesting thread to me not because of the AL-811 vs
>> MLA-2500 but because I am designing and building an amp. If I
>> understand this correctly, using a TS570 transceiver to drive my amp
>> implies I really don't need a tuned input circuit as I can just use the
>> built-in tuner of my rig to achieve a good enough match to the input of
>> the tubes. That saves me money and complexity.
>>
>> However, some on this list advise that the proximity of the output C of
>> the tuned input to the cathode of the PA is very important for its
>> "flywheel" or energy storage effect during the wide swings in impedance
>> during a cycle of operation.
>
>I have gotten the same advice / impressions. A tuned input adjacent to 
>the cathode appears to be the only true way to get a good flywheel 
>effect.  I suppose, if you didn't care about improving the IMD that it 
>might not matter.  I hope that  some of the experts will chime in on this.
>
>>
>> My question is, which strategy should one employ and what are teh pros
>> and cons? Assuming, of course, a built in AT such as in the TS570.
>
>There is a good link at <http://www.somis.org/SB220ci.html> where Rich 
>discusses the need for a good tuned input.  This article is about the 
>SB-220 but the idea is the same. Go to the link and scroll down to 
>"Improving Input SWR" about two thirds of the way down.  I think that 
>will help us understand why it's more complex than matching the radio 
>output to the cathode input.
>
>My questions to the group are these:
>How many of those running homebrew amps use a tuned input? How many are
>not?
>Now how many of those running a COMMERCIALLY manufactured amp are NOT 
>running a tuned input?
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> KD7QAE
>> Tomm
>> <snip>
>
>73, Tony W4ZT
>
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