Also I did never buy any amplifiers or parts from sellers who conceal their
identity and/or use anonymous freebee e-mail adresses.
Cheers, Dick
PA3DUV
----- Original Message -----
From: "sb200" <sb200@optonline.net>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Paypal only
> Is this the pay pal reflector ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. David Kirkby" <david.kirkby@onetel.net>
> To: "PA3DUV" <pa3duv@planet.nl>
> Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Paypal only
>
>
>> PA3DUV wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> I cannot agree more. On all my amplifier deals over the last years I
>>> used
>>> Paypal, either as a seller or buyer. I am happy to pay the fees as the
>>> reward is a safe and fast money transfer AND the fact that reliable
>>> people take Paypal, scammers NEVER take Paypal.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Dick
>>> PA3DUV
>>
>> Paypal is not safe as a seller. Do a bit of searching around the Internet
>> with
>> 'chargebacks' in the google search term.
>>
>> 1) Someone steals a credit card.
>> 2) Pays for the goods on the stolen credit card.
>> 3) You ship the goods to their Paypal registered address
>> 4) The true owner of the credit card notices the unauthorized transaction
>> and
>> reports it.
>> 5) The credit card company contact Paypal who withdraw the funds while it
>> is
>> under investigation. (i.e. the seller is guilty until proven innocent).
>>
>> This has happened to lots of people. And it can happen up to about 3
>> months
>> after Paypal send you a note saying you have been paid.
>>
>> It's in the 'Seller Protection Policy'
>>
>> https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/policy_spp-outside
>>
>> This site has a lot of rubbish on it.
>>
>> http://www.paypalsucks.com/
>>
>> but there is a lot of truth there too.
>>
>> Also, whereas for a normal credit card, the credit card companies will
>> assume
>> you are innocent on a claim until proven otherwise, this is not the same
>> on
>> Paypal. If a buyer objects, Paypal withdraw the money from the sellers
>> account
>> until it is proven in their favor.
>>
>> I'm seriously considering *not* taking Paypal on high value items, but
>> for
>> low-value ones it is the most common.
>>
>> A friend recently sold a high value item (about $3600) and stated he
>> would
>> make
>> his own checks before sending if paying via paypal. Luckily the buyer
>> wired the
>> money, as he offered a discount for doing that.
>>
>> Payal is far from safe in my opinion.
>>
>> There are gothcas for buyers too - I have been ripped off by sellers on
>> eBay.
>> Sure eBay have a prtection scheme, but I got about 50% of my money back.
>> Paypal
>> was not used for that transaction (it was before it existed). Read about
>> my
>> experiences here if you want.
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.marketplace.online.ebay/browse_frm/thread/fa545940f8411d1d/519d7a31e6a94e83?lnk=st&q=insurance+ripoff+ebay+else&rnum=1&hl=en#519d7a31e6a94e83
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