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Re: [Amps] EIMAC (8877 TYPE)

To: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] EIMAC (8877 TYPE)
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:54:06 -0500
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
On all the reflectors that I subscribe to, there is an
abundance of misinformation.  We all come biased.

Sometimes people get carried away also, and read things into things that are not said.


It is
obviously important to be able to separate the theory, myths
or crap from the jewels of information. I continually
support my philosophy by the experience factor. 'Experience
trumps theory every time.'

Not actually.


What does happen is sometimes people misunderstand or misuse information. That's quite often where the problem is.

For example? My comment that I wouldn't gut and modify an SB220, or in particular an SB200, for six meters is based on the fact you have to be careful running a 3-500Z on 50MHz. What we get away at on HF just doesn't fly up there unless you have a lot of dumb luck, and it basically will ruin the amp for any other use.

On the other hand with a reasonable layout in an HF amp like the AL800 with a 3CX800A7 we can move the ten meter tap, redo the input for ten to six, and have a bandswitched amp that will work 160-15 and 6 meters and run 900 watts or more if you don't mind hammering the tube a little.

This wasn't a reflection on anyone's ability, it's just a simple fact. If I wanted to convert or build a six meter amp, I'd use a tube that is easy to manage on six meters.
I've made 4- 6MJ6 sweep tubes amplify on six meters with 400 watts out... and I could easily repeat that trick over and over...but I'd never crow about how great an amp that makes or advise people to try that at home. I'd never pretend it was "more stable on six than on twenty meters".


People are often like toggle switches. They are either on or off, and assume because one thing is not the best idea or one claim is wrong everything is wrong. Case in point, Lou's 3CPX1500 tubes. People had them hitting the case, failing from low heater voltage, and all sorts of things. The fact is that tube is actually a good direct plug in for an 8877...and if the top hits the case of the amplifier whoever built the sheet metal was an absolute moron to have it so close in the first place.

This reflector, like antenna reflectors, has a tendency to go off on long meaningless tangents and the entire initial point is lost in all the opinions. Because something doesn't work like people think or as well as people might imagine certainly doesn't mean it won't work at all.

73 Tom


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