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Re: [Amps] 240V Outlet

To: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>, <jimsmitheguard-a@yahoo.com>, "'AMPS List'" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 240V Outlet
From: "Mark Robinson" <markrob@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:16:09 -0400
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Yes Gary,

I agree,. Which is why the English 240V 13amp plug has a replaceable fuse 
built into the plug to protect the individual appliance.

Mark N1UK


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
To: <jimsmitheguard-a@yahoo.com>; "'AMPS List'" <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, 10 August, 2009 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] 240V Outlet


I disagree. The nec is only concerned about the wire between the breaker and
outlet being protected. You can readily plug in a computer for example that
has only #18 wire in its power cord. Surely the 20 amp breaker in the power
panel is not expected to protect that #18 computer cord.
If they were concerned about anything further they would require a smaller
fuse at the outlet where the computer was plugged into or require #12 power
cord to the computer.

73
Gary  K4FMX

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of jimsmitheguard-a@yahoo.com
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:37 AM
> To: AMPS List
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 240V Outlet
>
> No, the fuse is to protect people. That means protecting the wiring,
> device, and appliance to avoid fires. The rated current of an item is not
> necessarily the size of the required overcurrent protection.
>
> The example does not demonstrate undersized wiring. It demonstrates too
> few circuits. As stated earlier, you can use one large circuit to feed
> them all, provided you install the smaller protection where you tap off to
> feed the loads, but this is not the common way of circuiting. This method
> is normally used where it's not feasible, or desirable to run individual
> circuits.
>
>
> Jim Smith, EE
> KQ6UV
>
> --- On Sun, 8/9/09, vk3pa@vk3pa.com <vk3pa@vk3pa.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: vk3pa@vk3pa.com <vk3pa@vk3pa.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 240V Outlet
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 5:44 PM
>
>
> Quoting Paul Christensen <w9ac@arrl.net>:
>
> In vk land the reason for the fuse is to protect the WIRING not the
> device as per u could have 3 devices on one circuit say each @ 5 amps
> es ur c/breaker is rated at 15Amps just ok for ur wiring "but" say u
> have 3 devices @ 10Amp 0Amps then your wiring is under rated..if ur
> using 15Amp rated wiring for that circuit!!
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