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Re: [Amps] Centurion plate current issue

To: "pfizenmayer" <pfizenmayer2@q.com>, "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Centurion plate current issue
From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:44:13 -0700
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Hi Hank and all.
I did call TT and talked to Gary, he was suspecting the tubes.  It was to late 
in this afternoon to make any phone calls. I DO appreciate all of the warnings 
that everyone has offered up !! Used to work HV in amps a l-o-n-g time ago., 
will probably end up bagging it up and shipping it back to TT. 

My writing a check for P&L+ shipping (of course) to TT beat the dickens out of 
my widow writing a check to the undertaker.
 
Again, my deepest thanks to the collective wisdom of the list.

73, Gary...wa6fgi

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: pfizenmayer 
  To: Carl ; Gary Smith ; amps@contesting.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Amps] Centurion plate current issue


  Gary -  I agree with Carl - looking at the Eimac constant current curves - 
  those tubes look fine. 175 ma at zero bias and about 3100 volts is what it 
  ought to be.

  I still think you have a blown bias transistor or transistors or the 8.2 v 
  zener is shot too. Fig 5-31 Filament- AC board

  If you talked to Garry Green at TT   ,I am surprised he did not say the 
  same. Incidentally , there is an error on the 81537 board drawing , Fig 5-31 
  Filament- AC board , where it says to plug 14 on QSK board , it should say 
  to plug 22 on qsk board.

  Also as a help , the wires to 22 on the fil board are orange , and are white 
  to 21. K is the heavy lead to CT of filament transformer ( fils of 
  3-500's. ) If I remember right you can unplug those two wires and get to the 
  junctions of the TO3 without removing the board.

  73 hank K7HP


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
  To: <amps@contesting.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:35 PM
  Subject: [Amps] Centurion plate current issue


  > Hi to the group:
  >
  > Finally got around to taking off the cover (excess of twenty screws) 
  > removed both tubes from sockets and switched the amp on.  No plate current 
  > draw.  Good.  Was suggested by TenTec to insert tubes one at a time and 
  > check plate current.
  >
  > Did that, plate current draw with either tube in place is 175 ma or so.
  >
  > Is there any way to check (with ohmmeter) for internal shorts?  Which pin 
  > to what particular pin?
  >
  > I `spose anything is possible but both tubes going bad at same time?
  >
  > When checking the tubes, had the HV on for maybe no more than 30 seconds 
  > or so, aluminum heat dissipaters on the  tube(s) was extremely  hot to the 
  > touch.
  >
  > Fwiw, tubes are RF products house brand. If I need new ones, any 
  > difference form RF house and Taylor's?
  >
  > looking of some ideas on this one (some more),
  >
  > 73, Gary...wa6fgi
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