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Re: [Amps] The Pin One Problem

To: "Alex Eban" <>, "'Ian White'" <>, <>
Subject: Re: [Amps] The Pin One Problem
From: "Carl" <>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:58:28 -0400
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That would be too easy since ground loops go almost back to prehistory when many discovered the same thing independently at almos the same time.

OTOH, before the Brown Theorem it was always called ground loops, especially in the pro audio industry.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Eban" <>
To: "'Ian White'" <>; <>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] The Pin One Problem

What about plain old ground loops, numerology set aside?
Alex 4Z5KS

-----Original Message-----
From: Amps [] On Behalf Of Ian White
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] The Pin One Problem

K9YC wrote:

When you invent, create, or discover something, you get to name it.

Would that would be "Brown's Law"?  I'm sorry, Jim, but it just ain't so.

We all understand your personal respect for Neil Muncie, but there are other
overriding priorities such as respect for truth and accuracy.

It is only justifiable to call this "the Pin 1 problem" where that name
accurately applies: specifically to Pin 1 of an XLR connector in the pro
audio industry. But this problem extends far beyond the area where it was
originally identified by Neil Muncie. It is no disrespect to insist that the
more generic problem needs a better name.

Calling it the "Pin 1" problem in situations where it simply isn't pin 1,
and even where there isn't a connector at all, is a deliberate falsehood
which misdirects and confuses people. It can only be understood by someone
who is already initiated into the secret. At so many different levels, that
is simply A Wrong Thing To Do.

We badly need a short GENERIC name that accurately indicates the nature of
the problem. That won't be easy to find, but it is something we can work on.
Calling it the "Pin 1 problem" simply isn't good enough.

73 from Ian GM3SEK

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