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[Amps] Ameritron AL-82/1200/1500 amps mis-wired!

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Subject: [Amps] Ameritron AL-82/1200/1500 amps mis-wired!
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:23:21 -0700
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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:04:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
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Subject: [Amps] Ameritron AL-82/1200/1500 amps mis-wired!

For those of you who might have any of these amps, they are mis wired.  Seems 
that pretty much all of them going back quite some time.  They are not wired 
according to the schematic and therefore a possible shock hazard is possible.  
One might assume that when interlock switch S5 is open (cover removed) that 
there is ZERO high voltage in the amp.  But due to the mis wiring there is 
about 400vdc which is in the power supply and on the tube anodes.  I suggest 
you "CAREFULLY" make the test to your amp to see if the problem exists.  Simply 
remove the cover and turn the amp on and look at the HV meter.  If you get any 
reading other than zero, your amp is mis-wired and you should consider wiring 
it properly.  The fix is simple. There is a blue/white wire coming from the 
contactor relay going over to the step start relay at junction with R3.  There 
is a wire on S5 (on left contact as viewed from front).  These 2 wires need to 
be switched to conform to the schematic.  In doing so, th
e 400vdc with S5 open goes away.  Although the manual states never to plug the 
amp in with the lid off, I know many of us do troubleshooting and we may 
wrongly assume that no HV is present when S5 is open.   If you are not 
qualified to make the repair, ask someone that is to do it for you.  I believe 
this is a repair that should be made to all these amps that exhibit this 
problem.  Please be careful in making the test or doing the repair. Lou

## I have NOT looked at the schematic.       Does the Interlock  short the B+ 
to the chassis..or does it open off the 240vac to the plate xfmr....or 
both....or what ??  
Is the problem on older amps... or newer vintage versions??     IE: how 
widespread is the issue ?   Surprised somebody hasn’t fried themselves already. 
Either way, the correct procedure would be.... to also chassis ground the B+  
with an alligator clip.    Then you know its at zero volts.    Clip goes on 
1st....and comes off dead last.
Then if something else  goes wrong...... you are covered.    If you want to be 
super safe, use 2-3 clips..and grnd the B+  in two different places...like the 
anodes, and the B+ end of the
string of HV filter caps.   Another good place is directly between the  B+ and 
B-  of the string of filter caps. 

##  Ameritron of course, should be notified.    Its not a design issue, its an 
assembly issue.    IF you have the SNs, they may be able to track it down  to a 
specific employee or
group of employees.  If they cant, they truly are idiots. 

##  So much for  any kind of testing of the finished product.    IE:  step 1, 
check interlock, does Vdc and or ACv  drop to zero ?    If not, check wiring 
XXX.  
Damned good thing they are not building medical or military or aircraft 
equipment.  

Jim  VE7RF 


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