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Re: [Amps] Amp Supply LK-500ZBx 3-500z tube & cooling question

To: "KB8NTY" <kb8nty@wowway.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Amp Supply LK-500ZBx 3-500z tube & cooling question
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:26:35 -0400
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Subject: [Amps] Amp Supply LK-500ZBx 3-500z tube & cooling question


Asking for more help please.

My early Amp Supply LK-500ZB model has the letter X at the end, reading
LK-500ZBx, The x is also included at the end of the three digit serial
number 500x.

Does anyone have any idea as to what the "X" suffix in my model number may
regard.

EXPORT


I have read up on some past history of the Amp Supply line and am aware of
the changes within the same models and at times not documented.
Possibly as a long shot someone who may have been associated with the
company may have any insight to what the "x" in the LK-500ZB model may refer
to?

In my researching of the LK-500ZB pictures found on line I see changes on
the raised sub-chassis that the two 3-500z tubes mount on. Some have a
series of holes along the top exterior side (closest to cabinet), some
sub-chassis are open on that end. In my early model there are no holes at
all on the sub-chassis, and the sub-chassis is complete, in other words the end of the raised sub-chassis on the exterior side is all one piece down to
the bottom of amp chassis (closed, not open) like in other versions I have
seen.


The later design cooled the tube pins a lot better.



Upon reading of the overheating of the tube pins I guess Amp Supply had made
changes along the way by drilling holes on the top of the sub-chassis and
leaving the side open, all for better cooling ventilation.
My fan is mounted low in that a 1/4" or so is placed to blow down below the
sub-chassis, but I guess in this earlier version, they didn't leave the
other end open and had no ventilation holes to help the air exit.

I hate to do so but when I replace my power supply board upgrade, I am going
to carefully take the 500z tubes out and drill out some holes into the
sub-chassis to allow for the air from fan to flow through and exit.
I have also obtained a new ebmpapst 4600z fan, thinking I may secure it to
the outside, side of the amp along with a speed control (as this fan really
spins fast) to help exhaust the air flow.


Use the 4600n fan in place of the original as suggested earlier. Use a switch and resistor to control the speed. Unless youre contesting or using RTTY/digital modes, you dont need an additional fan.



Speaking of the tubes....just by chance I had the top off and turned the
lights off in shack to get a thrill of seeing the 500z tubes glow...Sadly in
one tube upon key down I observed a slight purple haze up near the top of
tube right at the anode location. I mean slight...I would say 1/4 to 1/2
inch at most. This presented itself upon key down.

Upon my reading I have read of leaks, and sometimes gas from unused tubes. I
cannot say if the tubes were or were not used much as I only recently
obtained the amp.

My question; I am asking for advise from the groups knowledge as to what's
the deal?
Is my tube going to blow-up?
If so is there a chance if it does will it affect or take out any other
component's?
Will it cause my other tube to blow?
If I am to replace, can I still use it until it gets worse or should it be
replaced ASAP?
If I have to replace can I just replace that tube or should I be required to
purchase both say as in a matched set?
These are Eimac's with date code of 8438

Again this purple haze is only slight, only seen in the dark, is small in
size 1/4 to 1/2" at most and is located right at the top of the tube.
Power output don't seem to be affected at this time as I can obtain close
to1400 watts at best with amp.



In very few words....use the amp at full power to regetter the tubes.

Carl
KM1H


Prior to replacing the P/S board upgrade I am going to snap photos and post.

Sorry for all the questions. Trying to learn here and appreciate your valued
contribution.

Kind Regards...Ross KB8NTY
http://www.rossradio.net





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