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Re: [Amps] more - oil bath GS-35b

To: Gary Schafer <garyschafer@largeriver.net>, "'Steve Wright'" <stevewrightnz@gmail.com>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] more - oil bath GS-35b
From: Tom Thompson <w0ivj@tomthompson.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:08:26 -0600
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The flow through the radiator has to be the same as the flow around the tube. The secret is to spend more time in the radiator which has a larger surface area than the tube.

Tom   W0IVJ

On 3/31/2015 10:22 PM, Gary Schafer wrote:
How is the radiator different from the tube? Heat transfer is about
temperature difference, flow rate and turbulent flow. The greater
temperature difference the faster the heat transfer.

If you slow down the flow thru the radiator you at the same time slow it
down at the tube.

Faster flow increases turbulence and decreases heat layering giving better
contact to the oil/metal surface. Slow flow allows layering of the heat in
the oil which acts like an insulator as it flows slower near the metal
surface. Faster flow causes more turbulence which breaks up the layering
reducing the insulating action. Better heat transfer.

See:Laminar flow.

73
Gary K4FMX



-----Original Message-----
From: Amps [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Wright
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:21 PM
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] more - oil bath GS-35b



On 30/03/15 17:01, Gary Schafer wrote:
You do not need to slow the flow down in order to pick up heat. The
faster
the flow the more heat will be transferred.
Correct!  The faster the oil flow in the tube cooler, the better the
cooling.

But not so for the radiator.  The oil must slow down and be in the
radiator for a finite time for the heat to be transferred from the oil
to the air.



On another note, you will need as much air movement to cool the
radiator as
you would need to cool the tube directly. With oil cooling you are
only
moving the heat from the tube to the radiator. You still have the same
amount of heat to transfer to the air.
Sure.


Although with the radiator the surface area to cool will be much
larger than
it is with air cooling the tube so the air velocity can be lower.

Exactly!  Very much lower, and very very much quieter.  I want to sit
next to my quiet amp - not my vacuum cleaner.


Steve

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