With all due respect to everyone involved, I'm no more convinced today that
getscores is an instrument for cheating than I was yesterday, when I thought
the issue was a non-starter.
Can you see your rival's score? Yes. Can you see which band he's on? Yes.
Does that matter? I'm not convinced. Perhaps its my relative isolation that
colours my opinion, but it's of absolutely no value to me whatsoever to know
that while I'm plugging away at 60/hr on a dead 20, K1TTT is racking up Qs
on10 meters like there's no tomorrow.
But even if I'm in New England and privy to the same propagation as Dave, if
I'm at all competitive with him, I moved to 10 about the same time he did.
Maybe I'm a bit more savvy and got there first. But if I'm not savvy enough
to know propagation from my area as well as he does, or savvy enough to have
another receiver to listen for openings, I'm probably not a savvy enough
operator to be in his leagues anyway. So what's the issue? It's not like
knowing that a band is open is going to make me proficient at working it.
And if he's beating me on the knowledge of propagation issue, he's probably
cleaning my clock on other skills in contesting too.
I suspect that getscores will provide more benefit overall to contesting
than whatever negatives the risk of it being used to cheat may arise.
73, kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>
To: "'Robert Chudek - K0RC'" <k0rc@pclink.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
I'm sorry - I thought you were responding to my message where I pointed out
that the potential of using of using scoreboard to cheat is an issue.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC [mailto:k0rc@pclink.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:38 PM
To: Robert Naumann; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
I didn't say cheating was a non-issue. I said the scoreboard is a non-issue.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>
To: "'Robert Chudek - K0RC'" <k0rc@pclink.com>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
How is cheating a non-issue?
I am anxious to be better informed.
73,
Bob W5OV
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC [mailto:k0rc@pclink.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:39 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Getscores.org Changes/Improvements...
Bob - W5OV wrote:
"As a Single-Op, I could watch what a multi-multi is doing (who is posting
their breakdown) on which bands and make my band selection based on that
information. If I'm running on 20, and I see their qso count increasing on
15, I would know that 15 is now open. This might be a tactical error, but it
is also cheating (a moral error) if I am claiming single op unassisted."
This is a non-issue. I don't need a scoreboard to tell me what band is hot.
Every DX contest, in the morning, I can hear the East Coast running EU at
high rates. There is no propagation from EU into the Midwest so I just have
to suck it up and plug along on the bands that are open into this area. The
scoreboard will only confirm what I already know.
In my opinion, the scoreboard is a tool to stimulate the "average" contester
to spend more time in the chair. I have participated in events where I would
have turned off the radio and gone to bed, but the competitor on the line
above or below me was still plugging away. I didn't want to come back in the
morning to find out they had surged ahead to a position I could no longer
challenge. The information kept me on the air longer. There was a small
surge of adrenaline each time the scoreboard updated and I saw my new
position.
The scoreboard is not going to change the positions of the top ten
contenders, no matter how much anyone thinks it will. If you think it will,
then the scoreboards should be removed from the horse race tracks too. We
could ask the jockeys how much influence the scoreboard has on the race
outcome or cheating?
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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