Hi Jack,
I am very aware of, have used, and am impressed by the K3 -- what I meant
is, they (Elecraft) will probably release,or somebody will write, a software
module to do the same work as VE3NEA's Skimmer, right in the rig.
Are we then going to outlaw the radio for single ops??
Is it less of a radio because of it's innovative features? (now or to come?)
Maybe this will morph into a discussion of software-based SO2R vs hardware
based? :-)
73, Gerry W1VE
On Feb 6, 2008 4:42 PM, Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Gerry, it's called a K3.
>
> The K3 is a true SDR with most everything defined in the DSP.
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
>
> > Um,
> >
> > What happens when an SDR is built into the radio? You better bet
> > your
> > bottom dollar they will be coming soon. At $12 for an SDR i-f
> > receiver,
> > soon. I'll bet from Elecraft first.
> >
> > Are we going to outlaw particular radio models for single ops?
> >
> > This is getting pretty silly.
> >
> > 73, Gerry W1VE
> > On Feb 6, 2008 2:05 PM, Barry <w2up3@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> There's no question the forward march of technology cannot be
> >> stopped.
> >>
> >> The obvious solution is to have one single-op category, defined as
> >> one
> >> operator at the radio(s.)
> >>
> >> Barry W2UP
> >>
> >> Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> >>> I love these debates... I remember them for automatic keying
> >>> equipment,
> >>> computer logging, octopuses, SO2R, etc.
> >>>
> >>> It costs a bunch to be competitive these days. SO2R is almost
> >> essential.
> >>> That's really rough on people who want to do contesting on a
> >>> reasonable
> >>> budget.
> >>>
> >>> I remember talking to a rabid home brewer. Wouldn't touch anything
> >>> commercially manufactured. Very haughty about it. I asked him
> >>> if he
> >> was
> >>> making resistors out of the clay in his back yard and how hard
> >>> did he
> >> have
> >>> to suck to make a vacuum tube...
> >>>
> >>> Time and technology march on. It's never again going to be "what it
> >> used to
> >>> be". That's why they have straight key night.
> >>>
> >>> So some computer assistance (keying, logging, microcontrollers that
> >> define
> >>> the radio) are OK, but this one should be prohibited? Hmmmm...
> >>>
> >>> Kinda cool technology, regardless of what you think the rules
> >>> ought to
> >> be...
> >>>
> >>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> >>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Tippett
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:35 AM
> >>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This may present an interesting dilemma for contest
> >>> sponsors. Skimmer is pure hardware...no external help from other
> >>> ops. How could you disallow Skimmer (effectively gleaning spots
> >>> like Packet) and yet allow SO2R? Both are purely hardware, so
> >>> why allow one and not the other?
> >>>
> >>> Another problem is how to police whether spots are
> >>> coming from Skimmer or Packet? I remember competing
> >>> against a "single op" on 10m who claimed his Sub-RX
> >>> allowed him to have multiplier totals like multi-multis. ;-)
> >>> Now he could claim he was using Skimmer, which might be
> >>> legal depending on how the sponsors rule on it.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Bill W4ZV
> >>>
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> > --
> > Gerry Hull
> > Greenfield, NH USA
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