Having digested my Christmas lunch and the responses to my question: why
making contest logs is such an emotive subject. Demonstrably there are no
compelling arguments either for or against.
Randy, maintain the status quo or publish - it's your train set.
Cheers,
Terry
G4MKP
Ps: the ham has gone down very well with the family. I have about 3lb left.
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Today's Topics:
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2. pulic logs - I agree w/K1AR (kr2q@optimum.net)
3. EU HF Championship & SCC RTTY Championship 2008 results
(Robert Bajuk)
4. Re: Contest DxPed amp (Vladimir Sidorov)
5. Re: Public Logs (Sandy Taylor)
6. It's Almost Here-The Stew Perry TopBand Test (Lew Sayre)
7. Re: EU HF Championship & SCC RTTY Championship 2008 results
(Andrei Stchislenok)
8. MnQP chatter... (Robert Chudek - K0RC)
9. Re: Public Logs (K0HB)
10. Re: [YCCC] Stew Perry Topband Challenge on real time scores!
(Ron Rossi)
11. Re: Public Logs (w1md@cfl.rr.com)
12. 2008 9A CW - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Dec2008 (mwdink@eskimo.com)
13. 2008 OK RTTY - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Dec2008
(mwdink@eskimo.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:00:30 -0700
From: James Duffey <JamesDuffey@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public Log
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Cc: James Duffey <JamesDuffey@comcast.net>, w3pp.dallas@gmail.com
Message-ID: <500AD55A-FBB7-4BB4-8208-FF7E7E8892D3@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Dallas - You wrote:
"The one point that I have not seen profered is, if the logs have been
adjudicated by the contest committee, why would you want/need to see
them. In otherwords, what's in it for you to see my logs?"
Well, for one thing, it will satisfy my curiosity. For example, if I
am sure that I worked you, and got a NIL from the log checkers for our
QSO, I really want to know what is in your log when I thought we worked.
Expanding on this point, publishing logs will let anyone check the
checkers. It will make the log checking process open to all. It will
make the log checkers directly accountable their actions. For ARRL
contests the log checkers word is law; they will not entertain
questions about rejected QSOs. Now, there is no recourse to verify
that what they have checked has been checked correctly. It is like a
court of law that only publishes the verdict. I understand why this is
so, but I think that it is dangerous that a group who has so much
power makes decisions that cannot be verified. I do not think that
they abuse this power now, in fact, I think that they do a great job.
That may not always be the case however. Publishing logs opens the log
checking to scrutiny from anyone and that is good.
A second thing. If I am interested in how a rule change will affect
scores, complete logs that are available to anyone is the best way to
do this. Now the only way to accomplish this is to ask for volunteers
to rescore their log. One does not get a representative sample that way.
My main interest in contesting is as a VHF/UHF rover, so I come at the
problem from that perspective. Just my two dits worth. - Duffey
--
KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:29:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: kr2q@optimum.net
Subject: [CQ-Contest] pulic logs - I agree w/K1AR
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Message-ID: <e4df98ab241a.4953d110@optonline.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Yes, this HAS been beaten to death. (caps for emphasis, not yelling)
The earliest comment I can find in the archive is from 1994:
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/1994-10/msg00068.html
A "good" posting is from Dick Norton dated "way back when" where Dick states
some opinions
and cites an article on OPEN LOGS in March/April NCJ 1991.
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/1994-10/msg00077.html
More recently---
>From 2008, this was beaten to death again in March and end of August -
Beginning of Sept.
In case you missed it, here was my contribution back then:
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-03/msg00041.html
OF NOTE,
1. Since my post cited above, ARRL has rescinded its opinion that QSOs from
public logs
won't be accepted for DXCC credit. Nice.
2. The comment about "Hans" in the cited post was applicable back then, not
now.
Maybe the list moderators could limit the certain categories of posts to
"once a year?"
a. open logs
b. cut numbers
c. stealing my frequency or other "rude" behavior
d. lots of the others.....
MX es HNY!
de Doug KR2Q
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:35:37 +0100
From: "Robert Bajuk" <rbajuk@gmail.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] EU HF Championship & SCC RTTY Championship 2008
results
To: rtty@hamradio.si, cq-contest@contesting.com, 3830@contesting.com
Message-ID:
<a93b89e00812251335r6ac09171v4a91a26caf26240b@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hello contesters,
Here is your Christmas gift from Slovenia Contest Club :-)
The results of the 2008 EU HF Championship & SCC RTTY Championship are
now ready and available on the SCC home page.
http://lea.hamradio.si/scc/
As the previous years we want results to be transparent - all UBN
files are public and open to all, accessible with the "click"
on the desired callsign in results listing.
Hope to see you in SCC Contests in 2009.
Wish you a Merry Xmass & Happy Year 2009!
73 Robert, S57AW
SCC Contest director
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:57:59 -0500
From: "Vladimir Sidorov" <vs_otw@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest DxPed amp
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <051A7243252747D99D3FB37BCFBCD5D3@PC240214425287>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Tom,
The solid state Icom IC-PW1 is doing a great job for me for everything,
CW/SSB and even RTTY at full circle for the whole 48 hrs non stop. It IS
100% automatic. Having used for that things like grid dissipation, etc,
sound, ehhh, quite strange or obsolete, whatever you call it. The PA follows
bands' change and tunes to your freq automatically and instantly, it even
follows the freq change along the band. They say, a rig with the PW1 makes
the combo a 1 KW transceiver. This is/are the pro(s).
The cons.
1. It is not that cheap (you may check the Canadian prices).
2. It is a 1KW PA, not more. Some people try to get more that 1KW and reach
1.2 KW or so. For some time. Then they get problems (see the ch.1 above).
Go figure.
Happy holidays,
73,
Vladimir VE3IAE
---
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgens, Tom" <Tom.Georgens@netapp.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest DxPed amp
> What has been the contest community's experience with solid state amps
> for heavy duty contesting?
>
> I have often thought about the convenience of no tune amps for my
> contest station. It is also nice to have lighter models in case I have
> to bring them home for repair. My current amps (AL1200 and TenTec
> Centurion) have been very reliable recently but are not easy to bring
> home for repair. I have spare transformers for each at home to make
> transport easier, but the AL1200 is relatively large.
>
> Is auto tune in these amps a requirement for stabilty/reliablitly as my
> antennas are reasonably matched? I have other means of providing SWR
> protection in the event of a failure.
>
> Is the cooling sufficient for full bore operation (no RTTY) in a hot
> room?
>
> Does ALC work well enough to protect the amps from overdrive without
> having to touch it every time you change bands? This would defeat some
> of the automation of the no tune amps.
>
> The tube amps are not exactly convenient, but it has been a few years
> since I had one fail during a contest. I would hate to give that up as
> my environment, long times between use and very hot and humid, is not
> conductive to amp reliability.
>
> 73 and Happy Holidays
>
> Tom W2SC 8P5A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kr2q@optimum.net [mailto:kr2q@optimum.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:40 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest DxPed amp
>
> I just happened to run into this:
>
> http://www.ameritron.com/catalog/Ameritron_2009.pdf
>
> See page 9.
>
> Very light weight!
>
> de Doug KR2Q
>
> I have no vested interest in this company.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:47:48 -0600
From: "Sandy Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
To: "'VE5ZX'" <ve5zx@hotmail.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>,
"'Dallas W3PP'" <w3pp.dallas@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c966a8$23fd46f0$6bf7d4d0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
My two cents:
While I wouldn't like to see all contests make logs public, any more than I
would want to see all contests adopt SS-like exchanges or all contests adopt
QTCs or QSY rules or any of the other quirks that make certain contests
unique, I think a public log policy is an interesting quirk to WW that adds
to the strategic factor.
Notwithstanding the assertion that there are no secrets in contesting, if
there are, you can no longer assume there are any secrets in WW.
Which means a couple of interesting things: you can do exactly what you did
last year, with the possibility that your nearest rival has used your log to
outwit you, or you can try new things each year to try to stay a step ahead.
Maybe you succeed, maybe you don't.
Or, it's as K1AR and K5ZD and N5KO and K5TR and... all say: the secret to
contesting is there's no secret. Work lots of contests, gain experience,
maximize BIC time and improve your skills every time.
Either way, you're still having fun, no? And isn't that what it's all about?
If the public log policy is not enough to keep you from participating (in
other words, voting with your feet), then perhaps it's time to let the
thread die?
73, Kelly
ve4xt
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of VE5ZX
Sent: December-25-08 7:44 AM
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com; Dallas W3PP
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
> may or may not be revealed. The one point that I have not seen profered
> is,
> if the logs have been adjudicated by the contest committee, why would you
> want/need to see them. In otherwords, what's in it for you to see my
> logs?
Public logs allows others to develop new adjudication tools that the
committee does not have. For an example see the article "Two Radio Event
Signatures" at
http://www.radiosport.ca/rsrp/documents/2RE%20signatures.pdf
Syl, VE5ZX
Radio Sport Canada
http://www.radiosport.ca
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:38:32 -0800
From: "Lew Sayre" <w7ew@arrl.net>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] It's Almost Here-The Stew Perry TopBand Test
To: topband@contesting.com
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Message-ID:
<a18017910812252238g5482f399g1204c33b9f7f6eef@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Women, Men and Others of the Contesting Realm,
In a few short hours the starting tick will happen signaling that The
Stew
Perry TopBand DX Challenge sponsored by The Boring Amateur Radio Club
will be filling the 160M band. Consider playing in this Epic Contest as it
will
sharpen your mind, speed your fist and is a lot more fun than small talk
with
nogged relatives or repairing semi-destroyed electronic flotsam that
smaller
relatives have over exercised or dissected.
The rules are simple, just, ahead of their time and may be found at:
http://www.jzap.com/k7rat/stew.html
Please peruse the list below and pick out which one of these
magnificent
plaque creations you may aspire to attain. These plaques are sponsored by
noble
contesters who have decided that certain goals met during this RF
Battle are worthy
of a plaque creation. These plaque sponsors are not only incredibly
smart, good
looking and wise, but they understand the importance of peer appreciation to
our
sport. You can join these Stalwarts by sending me via my email
address a category
that you feel should be honored followed by $50 for the plaque.
The next time you meet any of these donors please greet them
warmly, buy them
a beverage and thank them for getting involved in such a worthy cause.
Call Category
KL7RA Highest # of QSO's
KB7Q Top Score QRP
K1EP Top Score, Low Power using Elecraft K3 radio
TF3KX Aurora Borealis Award (Top score > 60 deg North geomagnetic
latitude QTH)
AE6RF Top Score Low Power in W6
NA0Y Top Score USA
VK6VZ Top Score with antenna in space < 20m X 10m- (winner gets Royal
Flying Doctors of Australia cap rather than plaque)
W7TMT Top Score Low Power First Time Entry
N7UA Top Score High Power
K6DBG Top Score First Time QRP (no qrp entry X past 3 years)
KI7Y Top Score High Power Oregon-(W7GG/Ai7B Memorial)
N7KQ Top Score Central/South America
K7FL Top Score 100% Search & Pounce
KR2Q Golden Log Award (highest # of Q's with no errors)
N7JW Top Score South of The Equator
K7CA Top Score from Zones 17, 18, 22 or 23
F8BPN Top Score, Europe, Low Power
N5IA Most Grid Squares Worked
W7KF Old Timer's Award- Oldest Participant to make at least 50 or more
Q's
KH6LC High Score Oceania
KH6LC VK-ZL Challenge, Top Score VK/ZL
KJ9C Top Score Black Hole (W9+MN,IA,MO)
BARC Top Score JA
GMCC Top Score > 4000' elevation
GMCC Top Score Hi-power, W,VE,XE West of 100 deg longitude
GMCC Top Score Low-power, W,VE,XE West of 100 deg longitude
UX1UA USA Station with highest # with Zone 16 contacts
K6ND K6SE Memorial Plaque (criteria being developed)
The Boring Amateur Radio Club will also sponsor certain plaques noting
exceptional efforts that merit plaqueing as determined by The Sub-Committee
on Exceptional Efforts. The Boring Amateur Radio Club may also reward
certain
on-air behavior with Offical Boring Amateur Radio Club Tee Shirts (
new, not used).
Please note in your comments when you submit your log if you are
competing
for a particular plaque and any unique information that may be required for
adjudicating the winner for that plaque. We're good, but do not read minds
or
intentions very well.
Walk the dog and Beverages, learn your grid square and
daybreak/nightfall,
pay up your electric bill and tip the paper delivery person so you can
immerse
yourself in the 13th running of The Stew Perry TopBand DX Challenge!
There will be one more posting of the donors and plaques available
shortly
after the finish of the contest to honor any late donors and complete the
list.
See you in The Stew!
73 and I remain,
Lew W7EW/W7AT
w7ew@arrl.net
The Boring Amateur Radio Club Chancillor of Cheek
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:08:57 -0500
From: "Andrei Stchislenok" <asnp3d@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] EU HF Championship & SCC RTTY Championship
2008 results
To: "Robert Bajuk" <rbajuk@gmail.com>
Cc: rtty@hamradio.si, 3830@contesting.com, cq-contest@contesting.com,
RTTY Reflector Reflector <RTTY@contesting.com>
Message-ID:
<a765bab60812252008g1e67ec02t79cd2b11f4108cf4@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Merry Christmas Robert and thanks for the gift!
It is nice to see the logs of any station by simply clicking on the
callsign.
However, wondering why there is no column with the time when QSO was
conducted?
Time of QSO is a valuable piece of information, I think.
Thank you and see you all in SCC RTTY 2009.
73's Andrei EW1AR-NP3D
2008/12/25 Robert Bajuk <rbajuk@gmail.com>
> Hello contesters,
>
> Here is your Christmas gift from Slovenia Contest Club :-)
>
> The results of the 2008 EU HF Championship & SCC RTTY Championship are
> now ready and available on the SCC home page.
>
> http://lea.hamradio.si/scc/
>
> As the previous years we want results to be transparent - all UBN
> files are public and open to all, accessible with the "click"
> on the desired callsign in results listing.
>
> Hope to see you in SCC Contests in 2009.
>
> Wish you a Merry Xmass & Happy Year 2009!
>
>
> 73 Robert, S57AW
> SCC Contest director
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>
--
73's Andrei
EW1AR-NP3D
----------------------------------------------------
DXCC RTTY via LoTW only
Who has what? - World Wide Rating
Please visit: www.k4fo.com/cqrtty/
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:49:42 -0600
From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] MnQP chatter...
To: "Minnesota Wireless Association" <mwa@w0aa.org>,
<rtty@contesting.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <82CC13739AF542D58B2A27785102D63C@GX400A>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Contesting addicts,
I have uploaded a completely new MN QSO Party Log Analyzer to my website.
It's ready for your 2009 log, but it will analyze your 2008 or older logs as
well. (The MnQP will be held Saturday 7-Feb-2009, see the details here:
http://www.w0aa.org/mnqp_rules.htm
Two major features have been added to the Log Analyzer. The first is your
QSO totals are now broken out by bands. You will not only know you worked 45
Ohio stations, you will know on which bands. The second feature is a
breakout of callsigns by MN county. If you worked 30 Hennepin county
stations, this new worksheet will show you who they were (callsigns) and in
which order you worked them.
The MN QSO Party Log Analyzer is a tool useful for both in-state and
out-of-state operators. It's ideal to satisfy the needs of the most ardent
data junkies among the radiosport community!
Feel free to download the latest version from: http://tinyurl.com/8juedc
Check this site periodically for updates. You will also find new versions of
the ARRL RTTY Roundup and Florida QSO Party Log Analyzers at this same URL.
Any of these tools can be used to review previous years' logs by filling in
the appropriate contest dates for the log you want to analyze. Then import
your Cabrillo formatted log and you're ready to review all of the tables,
graphs, and statistics.
73 de Bob - K?RC in MN
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:05:55 -0000
From: "K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
To: "Barry Merrill" <barry@mxg.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <4620D9B8AB994AFEB2079E4E6CDA0DED@BigGuyII>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Barry Merrill" <barry@mxg.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:02 PM
To: "'K0HB'" <K0HB@ARRL.ORG>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
> By not submitting your log, you prevent complete adjucation.
> If you submit, and I logged you as K0SB, I loose points properly.
> If you don't submit, I get points I don't deserve.
>
> 73
>
> Barry, EI/W5GN
>
Barry, you are absolutely right. The higher the incidence of log
submissions, even thin logs like mine, the more complete a picture the
sponsor has of the participation and the more accurately he can score the
logs, catch busted calls, inaccurate exchanges, NIL's, rule violations, and
all the other detail that the sponsor needs for fairly and accurately
managing the contest.
So I whole-heartedly agree that every participant, even non-competitors,
should submit their log for the legitimate needs of the contest sponsor.
I do not agree, however, that my logs ought to be publicly released for
non-sponsor use such as QSO-mining, building of crutch-databases for use by
other contesters, or strategy/tactic evaluation by other contesters. Those
are NOT legitimate needs of the contest sponsor.
73, de Hans, K0HB
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 00:23:32 -0500
From: Ron Rossi <kk1l@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [YCCC] Stew Perry Topband Challenge on real
time scores!
To: K1TTT <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
Cc: Rlx <RLX@yahoogroups.com>, YCCC <yccc@yccc.org>, reflector
cq-contest <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>, Nobarc <nobarc@nobarc.org>
Message-ID: <49546A54.70402@arrl.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Folks,
For an example of how to use the uploader with TRLog and also to
download the program you need to generate a score summary on the fly
please visit http://home.comcast.net/~kk1l/RTUpload/RTScore.htm. There
is also a link of my main page at http://home.comcast.net/~kk1l.
The GetScores page link to this page is broken.
73 es God Bless de KK1L...Ron Rossi (kk1l@arrl.net) <><
QTH: Jericho, Vermont
My page: http://home.comcast.net/~kk1l
K1TTT wrote:
> Remember, this weekend the Stew Perry challenge will be running LIVE on
> http://www.getscores.org/. Please contribute your score to the running
> results. There are now more logging programs supported, and a new manual
> score posting program that lets everyone participate, even if your logger
> doesn't directly support it. This new score posting program can also be
> scripted and can be used to grab scores from other loggers and parse them
to
> post automatically to the scoreboard. KK1L has done that already for
TRLog,
> who wants to do it for CTWin or some of the other popular loggers??
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> YCCC Reflector mailto:yccc@contesting.com
> Yankee Clipper Contest Club http://www.yccc.org
> Reflector Info: http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yccc
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:52:41 -0500
From: <w1md@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Public Logs
To: David Kopacz <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>,
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20081226045241.IT2SC.391650.root@cdptpa-web02-z02>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Well...
CW Skimmer will effectively nullify that 'concern'...for CW contests anyway.
If you are in the carib and can hear other carib stations...setup CW Skimmer
and you can monitor the competition (whether running or SP'ing) as well as
hear those juicy 30min window long path openings...and possibly some other
'opening's that no one catches normally. Skimmer could be used this way
pretty much anywhere...states, EU, AF, etc.. so maybe Skimmer IS the big
equalizer... :) for CW anyway...
FYI...I'm a PJ2T op...hope you HAVE learned something from the logs...that's
part of what makes competition better...
W1MD
I know JD...DIL... :)
---- David Kopacz <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com> wrote:
>
> "If you send in a log, and claim a score, is it rocket science that how
> you
> got that score would be open to public scrutiny?
> Maybe those who do not want there logs to be public should also encrypt
> their transmissions so that they are also private.
> Do not claim a score, do not send a log. You may not be able to keep
> your
> transmissions heard world wide "private.". but your logs will be.
> Move on."
>
>
> I am sorry Albert, but I believe this to be a poor argument for open
> logs. Just because my transmissions are not private is no excuse for my
> strategy to be made public. You can certainly find me on a band and
> listen to my run frequency until such time as I QSY. You can probably
> find me again easily once I am spotted.
>
> But if I start S&P, when I know there is an opening LP to the Pacific on
> 40 meters, you aren't going to find me and you're not going to know I am
> aware of the 30 minute opening in the middle of the sunny Caribbean
> afternoon, unless you see my logs. FYI, this is a fact. From 6Y, we get
> a 30 minute Window in the afternoons with booming signals from VK/ZL.
> The opening is very short. I only discovered it recently.
>
> When you think about it, who would jeopardize their own score to listen
> to my strategy on the air? No one! But a few might be interested in my
> logs post contest to see how I am getting more multipliers than them.
> Just glancing at a few other Caribbean stations logs saves me years of
> time learning propagation from that part of the world.
>
> Personally, I don't think the sponsor gains anything by opening up
> everyone's logs, short of having more people help them quash the
> paranoia that someone "might" be cheating.
>
> David ~ KY1V
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:48:41 -0800
From: mwdink@eskimo.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2008 9A CW - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Dec2008
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Message-ID: <200812261548.mBQFmfq1027132@b4h.net>
2008 9A CW - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Dec2008
NOTE: This list is NOT a list of submitted logs received by the contest
sponsor. It is based solely on the claimed scores posted to the 3830
reflector via the web forms available at the 3830 Score Web Page shown
below.
Submit logs by: Jan 20, 2009
E-mail logs to: 9acw@9acw.org
Mail logs to:
Hrvatski RadioAmaterski Savez
for Croatian CW Contest
Dalmatinska 12
10000 Zagreb
Croatia
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All M/S HP
9A60A(@9A7A) 1765 262 24 2,433,456 Croatian CC
4O3A 1674 275 24 1,452,000 SKY CC
9A7T 1144 227 24 1,199,014 Croatian CC
YT6M(@YT3M) 1416 233 24 980,000 SKY CC
9A5Y(@9A1CCY) 981 166 24 750,000
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
9A1UN(@9A1P) 1595 250 24 2,172,500
9A7V 1386 203 24 1,410,850 Croatian CC
RD3A(RD3AF) 1558 248 24 1,249,920
OM3RM(@OM8A) 1617 218 24 1,221,890
UW2M(UR0MC) 1606 218 23.5 1,141,230 Ukraine Contest Club
LY6A 1169 197 24 704,078
RA3CM 1155 196 20 698,936
F5IN 1085 201 18 638,979
RT3T(UA3TU) 1094 189 20 609,336 RCC
LY4A 1000 169 19 504,296 BCC
N4AF 778 129 15 476,784 PVRC
SP2LNW 877 158 21 439,240 ATCC
YL7X(YL2LY) 716 147 10 324,870 Latvian CC
UW1MU(UR5MW) 715 147 12 317,079
UW1M(UR5MW) 715 147 12 317,079
VE3QAA 538 122 16 304,512 CCO
YL5T(YL3DQ) 615 157 9 298,300 Latvian CC
ZM2B(ZL2BR) 310 86 14 139,922
K3WW 328 90 6 133,830 FRC
K1ZZI 295 81 112,428 SECC
VE1DT 205 71 72,136 MCC
G3TXF 260 75 4 66,075
ZL2RU(ZL2RU/S52R 239 45 58,995
K4BAI 187 59 6.0 44,368 SECC
K3WI 160 54 5.5 36,234 FRC
VU2PTT 153 58 5 35,844
AA3B 197 45 2.5 31,590 FRC
VE3UTT(W1AJT) 101 47 <1.5h 24,660 CCO
W1TO 68 41 1.7 12,997 YCCC
I0QM 56 25 2 5,400
W3KL 26 17 0.75 2,992 PVRC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
9A5CW 1136 204 22 1,126,244 WWYC
9A3B(9A1AA) 1155 195 22 1,004,640 Croatian CC
RV3FF 670 140 13h17 272,160
9A3XV 501 109 22,5 231,952 Croatian CC
OK2BFN 532 124 14 205,716
UZ5UA(VLADIMIR) 498 1604 192,480 Black Sea Contest Cl
YT2AAA 409 98 17 122,402 Jablanik Bears CC
DL3YM 316 98 7.0 100,156 RR DX
HR9/WQ7R 327 62 94,612
OL140PS(OK1JOC) 280 84 72,000 OKqrp
DJ1YFK 195 49 6 31,997 WWYC
NA4K 132 56 31,528 TCG
N3ZL 104 52 5.5 25,896 SECC
VE1OP 120 41 2.5 17,794 MCC
F4FDA 75 46 6 12,420 WWYC
VA3ATT 80 27 8,289
PY4XX 30 18 3,114 Croatian Telegraphy
KN4Y 262 11 4 2,882 FCG
WB8JUI 22 16 1.0 1,328 MRRC
WA4SM 15 10 1,100 TCG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
OK1FKD 254 71 8 64,823 OKQRP
NG7Z 13 4 72 WWDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/160 HP
9A5W 534 46 17,5 160,908 Croatian CC
E70T(@E77DX) 513 49 108,682 Bosnia & Herzegowina
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
N4PN 314 61 13 57,950 SECC
LY3X(@LY5W) 416 58 14 50,286 Lithuanian Contest G
N9FC 38 18 2.45 2,718 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
PY2NY 39 22 5 2,882 TuPY Dx Group
Z36W 71 16 1,488
SM7VZX 26 10 560 SKY CC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 QRP
9A8MM 45 9 1 1,026 WWYC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/40 HP
OH6M(OH6LBW) 807 73 212,430
A71BX 526 54 10:00 167,616
LY1C(@LY2W) 601 67 21 144,184
S53M(S51FB) 171 36 2.13 18,936 SCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/40 LP
LY2KZ 408 50 16 66,700
DL6KVA 389 45 13.5 53,010
YU7PG 259 45 16 36,630
I2WIJ 182 38 3h 30 24,928
Z35X 86 26 9,152
YB4IR 28 17 3 2,924
K5LH 38 13 8 2,496
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/80 HP
E74A(@E73M) 552 49 91,700
E77DX 521 47 88,266 Bosnia and Herzegovi
SJ2W(SM2WMV) 459 54 18 84,780
HA8BE 442 44 63,008 HADXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call QSOs Mults hr Score Club
All SOSB/80 LP
YL3GFX 379 41 20 47,150
E72U 347 37 38,110
YO6MT 206 35 10 24,708 CS SILVER FOX
YR6M(YO6MT) 206 35 10 23,892 CS SILVER FOX
DJ5QV 184 22 7 20,196 RR DX
DL1REM 152 33 4 14,916
Operators:
4O3A 4O3A,4O4A
9A5Y 9A1DX,9A3LG,9A4GM,9A5CM,9A5TO
9A60A 9A2X,9A3OS,9A3TR,9A5X,DK6XZ
9A7T 9A2EU,9A5MR
YT6M YT3M,YT6M,YU2FG
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:50:56 -0800
From: mwdink@eskimo.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2008 OK RTTY - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Dec2008
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Message-ID: <200812261550.mBQFouhR027139@b4h.net>
2008 OK RTTY - All 3830 Claimed Scores 26Dec2008
NOTE: This list is NOT a list of submitted logs received by the contest
sponsor. It is based solely on the claimed scores posted to the 3830
reflector via the web forms available at the 3830 Score Web Page shown
below.
Submit logs by: Jan 15, 2009
E-mail logs to: okrtty@crk.cz
Mail logs to:
Czech Radio Club
OK DX RTTY Contest
P.O.Box 69
113 27 Praha 1
Czech Republic
3830 Score Web Page - http://www.hornucopia.com/3830score/
http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/
Submission info ( tnx WA7BNM) - http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/
Contest Station Database - http://www.pvrc.org/
73 dink
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All M/S HP
OL3Z(@OK1KZE) 1342 4529 148 64 24 960,148
UT3HWW 1059 2795 151 115 24 743,470
DL4R(@DL4RCK) 1044 2944 151 77 24 671,232 DRCG
OL5Q 956 1654 126 50 24 291,104 Tower Contest Gang
N2WK 458 1593 106 39 12.12 230,985
OH8F 473 1126 95 59 173,404
W7WW 528 1122 55 8 70,686
AD4EB 427 1018 55 10 8 66,170 TCG
W4NX(@W4LWW) 311 652 46 9 9 35,860 TCG
N6ML(@N6RO) 444 887 29 0 ~11 25,723 NCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOAB HP
K4GMH 1088 3741 131 81 20 793,092 PVRC
SP6AXW 737 2045 128 52 20 368,100
ON4BHQ 518 1285 101 41 182,470 RR DX
K9MUG 419 1493 70 30 14 149,300 ACG
WB2RHM 326 1103 76 24 110,300 Mecklenburg ARS
K0RC 544 1236 63 24 16 107,532 MWA
AA3B 343 1070 63 29 6 98,440 FRC
W0YK 655 1486 50 5 12 89,160 NCCC
W1BYH 338 1007 70 16 13.5 86,602 YCCC
W7ZR 607 1285 51 3 69,390 Desert Rats
Contest
K0FX 334 874 56 9 7.5 56,810 Grand Mesa
VE3UTT(W1AJT) 201 713 59 19 3.5 55,614 CCO
WX4TM 319 861 53 7 7.5 51,660 ACG
W1TO 248 604 62 23 5.28 51,340 YCCC
F5CQ 190 559 60 30 8 50,310 LNDX
NA2M 230 807 44 10 6.5 43,578 OBONY
N2CU 212 639 48 17 5 41,535 RTTY Rangers
W7PP 286 561 59 11 12 39,270
W3MF 201 612 46 14 4 36,720 FRC
VY2SS 177 504 45 10 3.3 27,720 MCC
N4ZZ 230 595 38 6 4.35 26,180 TCG
AA2NA 173 487 40 12 25,324
K3WI 177 418 46 10 7 23,408 FRC
AA8LL 138 361 50 11 4 22,021 SWODXA
WB8JUI 246 554 31 8 21,606 MRRC
N6QQ 250 507 34 3 6 18,759 SCCC
AD6WL 222 430 40 3 6 18,490
W2OO 104 408 32 9 4.0 16,728 TCG
AA5VU 200 400 35 6 16,400 CTDXCC
K7RSM 186 467 24 5 10.93 13,543 CADXA
W5KI 127 299 36 8 5.5 13,156
ZC4LI(STEVE) 805 0 0 0 24 12,345
W4ZE 144 243 40 5 3 10,935 FCG
KT6YL 197 327 22 2 6.5 7,848 NCCC
KV7DX(KN5H) 154 311 17 1 5,598 CADXA
KE1FO 94 184 24 5 2 5,336 YCCC
W6SX 181 391 13 0 5,083 NCCC
7L4IOU(2) 73 196 21 3 4,704 599CCJ
VA7ST 79 214 13 2 2 3,210
WA6BOB 100 172 14 1 4 2,550 SCCC
K5AM 81 151 13 2 1 2,265
W7WHY 13 22 8 0 .5 176 WVDXC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOAB LP
OK2CLW 574 1650 114 54 277,200
DL1ZBO 411 1157 88 50 12:19 159,666 DRCG
VE3GSI 437 999 55 19 73,926
F5RD 247 647 68 39 69,229
J39BS 346 976 41 6 10 48,800
YO9BXC 193 541 53 31 45,444 C.S. Petrolul
Ploies
VK5NPR 130 591 47 16 37,233 VKCC
OH8GZN 192 397 61 28 35,333
DK8EY 155 408 61 11 29,376 RR DX
WM5DX 200 511 45 10 28,105
VY2LI 183 462 50 9 5.5 27,258 MCC
W9ILY 173 356 42 7 17,444 METRO DX CLUB
ON6OM 158 319 39 11 05.30 16,250
AB4GG 200 369 36 7 6.5 15,867 TCG
Z36W 133 202 40 9 9,898
WB5TUF 140 282 27 5 9 9,024 TDXS
K2DSL 93 231 19 8 4 6,237 Bergen ARA
VE3XAT 99 178 27 5 5,696 CCO
KR1ST 100 250 21 1 3.2 5,500 The Three
Musketeers
VU2PTT 42 111 22 8 2 3,330
VE7IO 159 219 13 2 4 3,285 BCDX
K6GEP 77 166 12 0 3.5 1,992 SCCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOAB QRP
KA6SGT 44 123 9 1 3 1,230 SMC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/15 LP
PY4XX 7 13 3 0 39 RIO DX GROUP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 HP
I0QM 234 345 39 4 12 14,835
WA5ZUP 231 263 16 2 4 4,734
VE7CF 270 328 14 0 4,592
KH6GMP 141 279 10 0 24 2,790
VE1OP 76 114 21 2 .75 2,622 MCC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/20 LP
Z35X 297 383 39 11 19,150
W4LC 180 256 38 7 8 11,520 KCG
PD7RB 116 149 30 9 5,811
SM2JUR 115 126 20 17 4,662
GM4KLN 93 109 25 12 4 4,033 GMDX
HL5YI 15 17 5 0 2hr 85
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/40 HP
S51D 474 1848 53 22 15 138,600
S53M(S51FB) 375 1737 44 17 8.5 105,957 SCC
YW5CQ(YV5SSB) 145 870 19 2 5 18,270
YU7U(YU7BH) 135 500 32 5 8 17,000 SKY CC
K8SM 47 195 15 2 3,315
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/40 LP
YV1JGT 152 900 17 9 23,400 DX CLUB TRUJILLO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/80 HP
OK2SFP 413 1359 43 49 17 125,028
LY9Y 138 438 27 29 5 24,528 Lithuanian Contest
G
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Call Qs Pts C OK hr Score Club
All SOSB/80 LP
YT2U 110 339 29 21 5 16,950 SKY CC
Operators:
DL4R DJ3IW,DL4RCK,DM5TI
N6ML N6ML,N6WM
OH8F OH8KVY,OH8MWD
OL3Z OK1FPS,OK1LOL,OK1XYZ
OL5Q OK1FFU,OK1FLC,OK1HRA
UT3HWW UT4HZ,UY1HY,UZ7HO
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