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Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX

To: "'Mark Beckwith'" <n5ot@n5ot.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:57 -0700
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Mark,

I don't know that we do have different goals.

Trying to compare a tennis match to a radio competition is apples to
oranges.  A tennis match is between two people.  The radio contest is
thousands of people competing all at the same on the same court.

We are not hearing of huge pileups of non consters calling stations making
it nearly impossible to compete.  If I was in a lull then I would probably
work the guy.  If it started getting out of hand then a quick explanation
would probably take care of the issue.

There is no clear answer.  Mine will tend to be more cordial than many I
have seen posted here.  

I guess I will just continue to take the high road and treat people how I
would like to treated. 


"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over." Ben Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mark Beckwith
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:46 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX

When the goal is poorly defined, sometimes the solution is hard to nail
down.  I disagree with you, Mike, and think Albert has a point.  But I think
you and I probably have different goals when we get on the air for a
contest.

If there was one clear goal then there might be a more obvious answer :)
There's not.  Oh well.  Thanks for the QSOs!

73 - Mark, N5OT


----- Original Message -----
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
To: "'Albert Crespo'" <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX


> Suppose we were winning prizes of a million dollars.  Then you might have 
> a
> point.  We are competing mostly for fun and pride and if you are lucky you
> get a $60.00 plaque and paper certificate.  Enough said.
>
>
> "A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
> never get over." Ben Franklin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Albert Crespo
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:36 AM
> To: W0MU Mike Fatchett
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX
>
> Suppose there was a tennis competition that was not professional. One 
> person
> walks on the court , also a competitor but not in this match,  and starts
> yelling, "excuse me, excuse ". One of the participants  is distracted and
> stops playing  and the other does not notice this and continues a serve 
> and
> gains a point. The person who has walked on the court asks the first 
> person
> whom he distracted and asks , "excuse me, but what type of racket do you
> have? I need advice because mine needs replacing and I want to get as good

> a
> racket as yours."
> Do you think this moron that interrupted has acted in a "sportsmanlike"
> manner? His  needs for information is excusable to disrupt  a match?
> Some Sweepstake competitions have been won by one QSO. Yes , one.
> Taking the time out to work a non contest  QSO could cost someone  wining.
> Is it really sportsmanlike manners to cause this to happen? I do not think
> so. Just because I want or need something  is not an excuse to be rude to
> someone else.
> If someone calls who is not in a contest, the best response is too ignore
> them, just like many of life's irritants.
> If I  am operating as 6W1RY in the  JARL all Asian contest, it is totally
> unacceptable to me to have non Asian stations call me with the excuse that
> they need Senegal and please give me a a QSO. Oh, and also send me a QSL.
> There is a time and place for anything. That goes for adults, not for
> children.
> 73, Albert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
> To: "'David Kopacz'" <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>; "'CQ Contest'"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] No US DX Only - ARRL DX
>
>
>>
>> The Amateur's Code
>>
>> The Radio Amateur is
>>
>> CONSIDERATE...never knowingly operates in such a way as to lessen the
>> pleasure of others.
>>
>> LOYAL...offers loyalty, encouragement and support to other amateurs,
>> local clubs, and the American Radio Relay League, through which
>> Amateur Radio in the United States is represented nationally and
> internationally.
>>
>> PROGRESSIVE...with knowledge abreast of science, a well-built and
>> efficient station and operation above reproach.
>>
>> FRIENDLY...slow and patient operating when requested; friendly advice
>> and counsel to the beginner; kindly assistance, cooperation and
>> consideration for the interests of others. These are the hallmarks of
>> the amateur spirit.
>>
>> BALANCED...radio is an avocation, never interfering with duties owed
>> to family, job, school or community.
>>
>> PATRIOTIC...station and skill always ready for service to country and
>> community.
>>
>> --The original Amateur's Code was written by Paul M. Segal, W9EEA, in
>> 1928.
>>
>> It seems that we have forgotten much in 80 years.
>>
>> The goodwill of working a few of these guys might go a long way down
>> the road when you are begging for contacts on Sunday in Sweepstakes or
>> some other domestic contest.  We depend on the casual op in most
>> contests for significant portion of our contacts.
>>
>> The rest of his post was just pot stirring which I will not get
>> involved with.
>>
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