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Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?

To: "'Shelby Summerville'" <k4ww@arrl.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?
From: "Rick Lindquist, WW3DE" <ww3de@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:10:14 -0500
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Following up on this thread, which already has generated considerable
comment:

Shelby makes a valid point, which others - including a major contest
sponsor's representative I consulted - have supported, and I tend to agree
with this perspective. I note, however, that when I submit my logs via the
Internet or e-mail, I receive a message such as this one:

"Thank you for entering the contest and submitting your log in Cabrillo
format.  Please review the information listed above and, if necessary,
resubmit the log to make any corrections."

Of course, the robot then lists whatever logging vagaries its scan may have
uncovered.

In the past I typically have submitted my contest logs without review or
correction, mainly so I don't forget to do so! My practice going forward
always will be to accept whatever errors I may have entered inadvertently,
while also recognizing that since I suffered a mild stroke a year ago, the
accuracy of my keyboarding has deteriorated (and I still cannot send CW very
well). 

Advancing decrepitude takes its toll on us all.

73, Rick, WW3DE

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Shelby Summerville
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:46 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Did I cheat in NAQP CW?

Rick Lindquist, WW3DE wrote; "Regarding post-contest log checking, I don't 
feel it's "cheating" to proofread all the entries looking for typos and the 
like - entering "O" when
I really meant to enter "0," for example."

While we are all certainly entitled to our opinions, I strongly disagree! 
All contest's have a specified time frame, and anything done "outside" that 
specified time frame is cheating. I see absolutely no difference between 
"proofreading", and using any kind of assistance, post contest, to insure 
the correctness of ones log? If "listening during off time" is considered 
operating time, why wouldn't "post contest" editing, be considered operating

time?

"A practice that seems especially prevalent among non-US/VE stations is to
set up the logging software to do an online lookup and insert whatever
appears as your given name on your license record into their reply. This
happens a lot on RTTY, within and outside of contests."

The ability to use previous contest information, "preset exchange from 
ADIF", in the current contest, is contained in most contest logging 
software. If you send in a log, it is in ones best interest to insure that 
what is sent, is what is copied, rather that what may be contained in the 
"preset exchange"> The use of a "name" in RTTY contests has a long history, 
and a "name" database, is maintained by NF4Z. I have no idea where the 
initial information, for that database, came from? I get called by my real 
name, in most contests that require a name, which has no bearing or what 
name I have sent, or what any other station may have copied?

C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW 

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