Mark,
The posting of constructive operating tips that yield on-air improvements
will not be tolerated on this reflector. Please revert back to our
well-established mission of incessant whining, name calling, and repetitive
threads
that go nowhere or you will be banned from any future postings. Others
take note as well. This message will not be repeated.
:-) (added in support of the tightest of tightly wound participants on this
channel)
73 John, K1AR / currently enjoying 24 straight hours where no one has
yelled at either myself or Tom.
PS: Thanks, OM
In a message dated 11/9/2011 11:06:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kd4d@comcast.net writes:
Hi Jeff:
QRZ takes way too long to send or say IMHO. Try "Thanks" (or TU on CW)
and, maybe "Roger" (R on CW)if you want a different acknowledgement when
you don't send the call. You can say many callsigns in almost same
amount of time it takes to say "QRZ".
73,
Mark
On 11/9/2011 7:35 AM, Bob Naumann wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> As the method you apply here is one based on your greater than average
skill
> set and experience, what would you recommend for someone who is not
blessed
> with the same or just starting out?
>
> I don't want anyone to go away from this discussion thinking "N5TJ doesn
't
> sign his call every time, so I'm going to start out just saying QRZed
and do
> better". There's a lot more behind the technique you apply.
>
> One of the advanced techniques that K5TR mentioned is the copying of
several
> callsigns (or partial calls) at one time from a pileup and working each
of
> them without signing or saying TU or QRZ. This is an advanced skill that
not
> everyone has and this is one case where one would not necessarily sign
their
> call between every QSO. This is a huge difference from just not signing
your
> call after every QSO as your mission - in this case, your mission is to
get
> more stations in your log more quickly and your copying multiple
callsigns
> at one time is how you do it - it is NOT enabled by not sending your
> callsign. In other words, not sending your callsign is not the technique
> that leads to any improvement - it is instead the result of these
advanced
> techniques.
>
> No one at the top of this game is looking for advice on what to do; it is
> those who are not at the top of the game or might be just getting
started I
> am concerned with getting the wrong idea.
>
> For those looking for ways to improve, would you recommend that they call
> one CQ, get a pileup going and just say "Cue Are Zed" at the end of every
> QSO, or would it be better for them (until they develop better skills)
to
> just say their callsign at the end of each QSO?
>
> As they gain experience, I would suspect that they could judiciously do
> otherwise, but the point of my questioning this way is to establish the
> principle - not the exception as the rule for those who do not have
advanced
> pileup management skills.
>
> Also, we've all heard the unruly pileups that go on seemingly forever
> without the operator signing his callsign. Lately, this has been
occurring
> with DXpeditions too and I also think this is very bad technique.
>
> Not sending your callsign after every QSO is the effect that results
from
> the cause of applying advanced skills and abilities to pileup management.
> Better efficiency does not result merely from omitting your callsign.
>
> Make sense?
>
> W5OV
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Steinman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:49 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] BOGUS QSO RATES!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> K5TR wrote:
>> Correct - me too - but not every time.
> Interesting topic and angles. I can confirm that I *do not* send my call
> after each QSO during big hours. When working as many as 8-10 people in a
> minute on SSB there's no time/reason to sign each QSO. Probably once or
> twice each minute and as George wrote the trick is to do it in flow. Of
> those few big hours I have had don't recall getting a lot of requests
for my
> call. Probably more requests to "slow down" as just speaking so fast. I'd
> speak faster if I could!
>
> IMHO a more important topic around high rates/good operating is that I
will
> CONFIRM each QSO and/or correct your call if needed. It might be "TR,
> thanks" if a correction. And if I have it ok a simple as "thanks" or
"VP2E"
> if it's time to give my call. But it will always be something to let you
> know you're in the log, and let the pileup know it's time to call.
>
> 73,
> Jeff N5TJ
>
>
>
>
>
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