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Re: [CQ-Contest] What would you have done?

To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>, <n1tangoalpha@gmail.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] What would you have done?
From: <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:22:38 -0600
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I think we're overanalyzing the response here just a bit: if you notify the
League as well as the other operators, the League is now in on the deal, so
any post-contest edits would be immediately apparent. Ergo, no harm done.

MQE - love the acronym. Mind if I use it?

73, kelly
ve4xt


On 11/21/11 2:48 PM, "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:

> I see your point. So one might want to wait to tell either or both of them
> until after logs had been submitted.
>  
> That is a moral judgement that only the operators can, and should make.
>  
> And frankly, if I received and email from someone telling me something like
> this... I can't speak for anyone else, but I would NOT change my log.  (What
> if the person sending said information is wrong?)  I would make a note of it
> and pass it on to the contest sponsor along with my log, just to cover all
> bets.
>  
> The point is, though, that the receiving station copied what was sent to him.
> The error appears to be on the sending station.   Someone should be notified
> of where the error originated so that the receiving station is not unfairly
> (IMHO) dinged for copying what was sent, as he should, not what should have
> been sent.  Granted, life's not fair, but one should try to do the best one
> can, and an error like this should not be ignored.
>  
> 73, ron w3wn
>  
> --------------------------------
> 
> On 11/21/11, Mike N1TA<n1tangoalpha@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>wrote:
>> 
>> If I'd overheard this, I'd email both stations and tell them exactly what
>> you observed. And I would definitely contact Sean up at the League and tell
>> him the same thing.
>> 
>> 
> If you email both stations, and the stations use this information to
> correct their logs, they are making an exchange after the contest - and
> this is not legal. This is the same as emailing some EU after CQWW to
> confirm their zone or to correct an exchange - it's not right. Brain spasms
> happen (locally, we call them MQE's or Moron Qualifying Events), and
> unfortunately they cost points, be it a momentary lapse and a wrong zone
> sent or fat fingers and a wrong zone copied or using the club call by
> mistake, etc., we've all done this stuff. Now, feel free to get a hold of
> KX9X on this, as he'd be the ultimate authority, and might even wave the
> ultimate authority wand over it. But in any case, contact him BEFORE you
> try contacting either of the stations.
> 
> My $0.02.


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