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Re: [CQ-Contest] unIDs

To: pokane@ei5di.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] unIDs
From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:55:49 -0600 (CST)
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Well, heck yes Paul, it's a form of pile-up management. Not IMHO a good 
practice, nevertheless, it's there.

 
But it's not recent, nor can it be blamed on the cluster or RBN. Those may 
exacerbate it, but they are not the cause.

It's NOTHING NEW. 


 
Now, even if a contest sponsor updates/changes the rules to mandate more 
frequent ID's, you're still going to have operators keep the ID to a bare 
minimum. Some think it's more "efficient." Some just like doing it that way. 
But it's a bad habit that will be hard to break.

 
Still, with all due respect to Tom & Paul and anyone else unhappy with it... if 
you don't know who the station is, and it's not (as can be gleaned from the 
exchange) a needed multiplier or "new one," then don't call them. If you do, 
and then find out you've worked a dupe (especially these days when someone is 
more likely to just log a dupe and move on, since there's no penalty for 
working dupes other than wasted time), who's fault is it?
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On 11/28/11, Paul O'Kane<pokane@ei5di.com> wrote:

On 28/11/2011 02:44, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:

> Some stations ID after every contact. Some after every other. Some every
> minute. Some less often. This is nothing new; this goes back as far as I
> can recall, and that goes back to Field Day 1972.

The problem is recent, and getting worse. It stems from
those stations assuming everyone else knows their call
from spots or the RBN. For as long as they get a steady
stream of callers, they have no need to ID. They use
non-IDing as a form of pileup management.

Of course it's utterly selfish.


> Unless you are going to mandate in the rules a minimum time to ID over&
> above what is legally required by the country of license for the station,
> there's not much that can be done about it.

Contest organisers can, and do, mandate rules that
have nothing to do with "legalities". The solution
is not to set a maximum time between IDs, it might
be better to specify a maximum number of QSOs, no
more than three or four, because that is easy to
monitor.

73,
Paul EI5DI


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