...And, in the future will the software send out email alerts when someone
makes a band change, so all competitors in the same class will know.
Strategy is important, and I am NOT in favor of anything that would force me to
reveal what I may, or not be, doing.
Just operate, and amaze everyone, and maybe yourself, with your score at the
end of the contest.
What don't we just give everyone a trophy, just like in childrens soccer?
73 de Steve, NR4M
On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:04, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> While you may be right that this would be an aid to SOME operators, and will
> act to their benefit... not everyone may agree with you.
>
> Why force it on people who don't wish to do it?
>
> 73
>
>
> On 11/27/13, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Actually, it could help contestants. N1MM could probe the online
> scoreboard for the same class you are and report back that you are XXXX
> points ahead or XXXX points behind. This could be used as a kick in the
> pants to get moving!
>
> There is value in the scoreboard. It has been a slow sell.
>
> I agree with your other points about online gaming and attempting to
> capture those elements if we have any hopes of converting young people
> to ham radio instead of the internet. An Xbox is far easier to hook up
> than a ham rig and contest worthy antennas.
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> On 11/26/2013 10:59 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>
>> I don't think it adds a thing to anyone not actually in the contest.
>> I can't imagine that more than a handful of non-contesters are going
>> to spend any time at all watching a set of numbers increment on their
>> screen.
>>
>> "Re-imagining contesting" is going to require something far more
>> interesting than simply making scores more visible. It's going to
>> require coming up with contest formats that more closely parallel
>> online gaming .... where the action a participant takes directly and
>> in real time impacts the actions and scores of competitors, and where
>> teams of players can collaboratively accomplish something in real time
>> that they couldn't individually. I've pondered this issue at great
>> length and haven't come up with anything yet that works for
>> radiosport, but the model is certainly there. There are more people
>> actively playing EACH of the major online games than there are U.S.
>> amateur radio licensees in total.
>>
>> Dave AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/2013 9:20 AM, Steve Dyer wrote:
>>> I am super excited about the idea of real-time posting AND scoring.
>>> It would be a tool to attract a lot of very positive attention to
>>> radio sport. A real game changer that would allow us to promote
>>> contesting as the modern, exciting activity it is to a *global*
>>> audience. An audience that expects to see results real-time, not 12
>>> months later. The contest sponsors need to wake up on this one and
>>> make it their #1 priority if they want to survive. They will get a
>>> lot more attention from advertisers and sponsors if they can break
>>> the current mold and re-imagine contesting. Print cycles for dead
>>> tree magazines should not be driving the agenda anymore.
>>>
>>> ...but it's got nothing to do with using Skimmer.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Steve
>>> W1SRD
>>>> Soap Box- I want to commend the teams that took the time to post their
>>>> scores
>>>> on the cqcontest.ru site. Our friends in UA have dove an excellent
>>>> job in
>>>> making the site easy to use and very accurate. On a different note I
>>>> will
>>>> propose a change to the CQWW Rules to include some sort of rule that
>>>> if a
>>>> station uses skimmer, packet or any other means of gathering
>>>> information
>>>> they
>>>> will be obligated to post their scores. Here is a classic example
>>>> given to
>>>> me
>>>> by KY4F.
>>>>
>>>> "You and your wife are huge Golf fans, and save, and finally buy
>>>> tickets
>>>> to the Master's Golf Tournament (CQWW CW is much like the Master's).
>>>> In the
>>>> process of your attendance, Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson decide
>>>> that they
>>>> will not allow their scores to be listed on the leader boards and
>>>> that they
>>>> will keep their score cards in their pocket and not allow any fans
>>>> or other
>>>> competitor to see their score. Their score cards will not be
>>>> available until
>>>> after every participant has finished the Tournament".
>>>>
>>>> I see no discernible difference in the above case, and our current
>>>> leaders
>>>> in
>>>> CQWW who refuse to participate in posting their scores online. It is
>>>> done in
>>>> the Golf world to openly and frankly show what the score is at every
>>>> stroke. It
>>>> is a display of honesty and frankness and is a requirement for entry
>>>> in any
>>>> golf
>>>> tournament. I call upon all of the contesting community to request...no
>>>> require... that all participants who use any method of information
>>>> collection
>>>> to post their scores!
>>>>
>>>> As the contesting community has adjusted to the requirement for logs
>>>> to be
>>>> sent
>>>> in and posted for all to see, it is now time to change this unnecessary
>>>> behavior
>>>> and openly post your score for all to see. Not posting your score
>>>> equals non
>>>> entry in the contest.
>>>>
>>>> de Rick NQ4I
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