Certainly CQ cannot make Crimea Ukraine, becase it ALREADY is Ukraine!
Only Russia claims Crimea as part of its own territory.
I'm glad CQ doesn't endorse that position.
It is fully alligned with what the international community thinks about
this terrible situation.
You guys seem to be asking CQ to support Russia's illegal occupation of
Ukraine, why should CQ do that?
73,
Martin, LU5DX
El 18/10/2014 13:56, "Andy Melanin" <ua3dpx@mail.ru> escribió:
> Martin You did not catch the sense, they are Russian citizens now, they
> have Russian passports, they have Russian calls and they can not use
> Ukranian calls any more. You think that the CQ can make Crimea Ukrain? I
> think NO!
> 73! Andy UA3DPX/RM3F
>
> Отправлено с iPad
>
> 18 окт. 2014 г., в 20:34, Martin Monsalvo <monsalvo@gmail.com> написал(а):
>
> A Ukrainian, not pro-russian, can use his valid Ukrainian callsign in
> Crimea?
> The referendum has no validity whatsoever.
> It is like saying all CP inmigrants with a valid LU Id can vote in a
> referendum to make Buenos Aires part of CP!
> That is not how things go.
> 73,
> Martin
> El 18/10/2014 13:08, "Andy Melanin" <ua3dpx@mail.ru> escribió:
>
>> Martin, who told You that they were forced to sign Russian calls? They
>> decided to be Russian citizens themselves :-))
>>
>> Отправлено с iPad
>>
>> > 18 окт. 2014 г., в 8:09, Martin Monsalvo <monsalvo@gmail.com>
>> написал(а):
>> >
>> > With all due respect and with all the appreciation I feel towards long
>> term
>> > friends in both Russia and Ukraine.
>> > Crimea is not part of Russia, despite the fact that it is being
>> illegally
>> > annexed to it.
>> > The international community as a whole has pronounced in favor of
>> > Ukraine soverignity which certainly includes Crimea. Why should CQ
>> > pronounce otherwise?
>> > Accepting operations from Crimea with russian calls ipso facto does not
>> > contribute to contesting nor to amateur radio at all. It would only be a
>> > sign that our hobby doesn't care about International Law and the
>> > Independence of Nations.
>> > I feel for those Ukrainian stations in Crimea that are being forced to
>> sign
>> > russian callsigns, but this is way above contesting and cannot be
>> > acccepted, since it is the outcome of illegal actions that no one, but
>> > Russia government endorses.
>> >
>> > Vy 73,
>> > Martin, LU5DX
>> > El 17/10/2014 21:58, "Andy Kazantsev" <uu0jm@bk.ru> escribió:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Edward.
>> >>
>> >> Вы писали 18 октября 2014 г., 0:39:53:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Andy, Personally, I am sorry for your situation. And sorry that you
>> are
>> >>> harmed right now. Is it not possible for you to operate using the
>> >> Ukrainian
>> >>> callsign? I think that I would have worded the CQ announcement
>> >> differently
>> >>> but came to the same conclusion. I believe my statement would be that
>> CQ
>> >>> follows the DXCC and WAE country rules and also requires that a
>> station
>> >>> identify themselves with the DXCC/WAE country that they are in. The
>> DXCC
>> >>> follows the US State Dept recognized county or territory list which I
>> >> have
>> >>> to assume still calls that location Ukraine. So if you signed from
>> >> Ukraine,
>> >>> I don't see there being a problem. I am assuming that WAE has no
>> >> separate
>> >>> country status for Crimea.
>> >>
>> >> I currently live in Russia. And shall comply with the laws of Russia.
>> >> According to these laws, I got a call UB7K and worked in several
>> >> contests, including the CQ WW RTTY (4 place World, raw scores).
>> >> Also we work CQ WPX CW 2014(UA7K) and WAE CW and SSB 2014.
>> >> If I'm going to continue to work, only this callsign. It is my firm
>> belief.
>> >> I'm not asking for a separate territory of Crimea! Why mix radio with
>> >> politics?
>> >> This message sponsors CQ caused a storm of dissent among contesters in
>> >> Crimea. Many are ready for these competitions. And then a week before
>> the
>> >> competition,
>> >> we know that all of our training in vain.
>> >> It is very sad and does not honor the CQ magazine and event
>> organizers.
>> >> Nevertheless it I will work in this competition, because I compete
>> >> primarily with each other.
>> >> Last year, I set a record 16 zone and was going to beat this year it.
>> >>
>> >> 73! Andy UB7K
>> >> ex. UU0JM, UU7J , K1I (WRTC 2014)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> 73
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Ed N1UR
>> >>
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>> >>
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